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And I don't think there's anyone the Raptors would want of the C's as of right now
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Did I miss something and the Raptors got 12 all-stars that are better than Pierce?
Or did they get 12 players that are better (and have more potential) than West, Gomes, Perkins, Telfair, Jefferson and Green?
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07-20-2006, 12:22 PM
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Re: Mo-Pete or Boozer
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07-20-2006, 12:30 PM
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Re: Mo-Pete or Boozer
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And I don't think there's anyone the Raptors would want of the C's as of right now
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Did I miss something and the Raptors got 12 all-stars that are better than Pierce?
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I could flip this around also, couldn't I, with Bosh
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Or did they get 12 players that are better (and have more potential) than West, Gomes, Perkins, Telfair, Jefferson and Green?
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Ford, Bargs, Graham, Parker - West, Gomes, Telfair, Green
Both teams are full of potential
I don't see what's so special about Perkins and Jefferson so I'm not including them 
Bosh is only 22 as well, so please stop
The way Colangelo is doing things, of course we're excited, just like the Boston fans are excited about the young players they have (some that you mentioned), so aruging isn't going to solve anything
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07-20-2006, 12:30 PM
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Re: Mo-Pete or Boozer
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Did I miss something and the Raptors got 12 all-stars that are better than Pierce?
Or did they get 12 players that are better (and have more potential) than West, Gomes, Perkins, Telfair, Jefferson and Green?
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I was wondering that myself, I mean no offense to Raptors fans they are obviously trying to improve under Collangelo but ah I don't see a top team in the East at this point and they only have a few good peices at the moment so why knock on us and our young guys and all-star.....we are no worse than the Raps and probably better at this point.
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07-20-2006, 12:35 PM
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One of the best perimeter defenders in the league.
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Not even close. I'll give you top 30.
Again, you are confusing the fact that he has to guard the other team's best perimeter player with doing a good job of it.
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07-20-2006, 01:27 PM
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A deal that improves the team...like TJ Ford for Charlie Villanueva? Brilliance.
Anyway, I don't think Paul Pierce has much of a future as a GM if he wants Mo Pete. He wouldn't be worth the effort.
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Yea and when TJ Ford plays good next year your gonna feel like an fool (idiot). Whatever man.
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07-20-2006, 01:34 PM
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Yea and when TJ Ford plays good next year your gonna feel like an idoit.
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07-20-2006, 02:10 PM
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If he "defends the opposing teams best player," as you said, "night in and night out," why was he not defending Kobe's 81? Why was he getting smoked by Pierce?
Here are a few other numbers by the opposing teams best player in Raptor games:
LeBron James - 27 (11/7)
Allen Iverson - 34 (11/15)
Allen Iverson - 42 (11/16)
Dwayne Wade - 34 (11/25)
Tracy McGrady - 34 (1/6)
Vince Carter - 42 (1/8)
Kobe Bryant - 81 (1/22)
Carmelo Anthony - 37 (1/23)
I could go on, but that seemed like enough. I admit, he played well in December, but that might be about it. I like the 64 ppg he gave up on consecutive nights, though, as you said, Jalen Rose was guarding Kobe in the 81 point night. I guess MoPete isn't guarding the best player every game, eh?
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Can LeBron James be stopped by anyone? Nope.
Can Allen Iverson be stopped by anyone? Nope.
Can Dwyane Wade be stopped by anyone? Nope.
Can Tracy McGrady be stopped by anyone? Nope.
Can Kobe Bryant be stopped by anyone? Nope.
Can Vince Carter be stopped by anyone? Nope.
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07-20-2006, 02:13 PM
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Not even close. I'll give you top 30.
Again, you are confusing the fact that he has to guard the other team's best perimeter player with doing a good job of it.
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Your opinion.
It's not like I'm bias. I don't like Morris that much, because of his chucking and inconsistent offensive game. But his defense is stellar and he has kept us in many games with it. Say what you want about Morris, but never take away his defensive stature.
And trust me, I've seen Jalen Rose, Vince Carter, Joey Graham, Eric Williams, ect ect defend the opposing teams best perimeter defender and done terrible jobs in comparison with Morris Peterson. The Raps haven't had such a good perimeter defender since Doug Christie.
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Can LeBron James be stopped by anyone? Nope.
Can Allen Iverson be stopped by anyone? Nope.
Can Dwyane Wade be stopped by anyone? Nope.
Can Tracy McGrady be stopped by anyone? Nope.
Can Kobe Bryant be stopped by anyone? Nope.
Can Vince Carter be stopped by anyone? Nope.
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ooooooooooooooo ok i get what your saying now...hes only one of the top perimiter defenders in the league when he plays scrub opposition...he cant guard the top dozen or so wing players in the league...so the next time i have a team and my starting 2guard is jarvis hayes then ill be happy to have a top notch defender in morris peterson guarding him 
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07-20-2006, 02:25 PM
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Your opinion.
It's not like I'm bias. I don't like Morris that much, because of his chucking and inconsistent offensive game. But his defense is stellar and he has kept us in many games with it. Say what you want about Morris, but never take away his defensive stature.
And trust me, I've seen Jalen Rose, Vince Carter, Joey Graham, Eric Williams, ect ect defend the opposing teams best perimeter defender and done terrible jobs in comparison with Morris Peterson. The Raps haven't had such a good perimeter defender since Doug Christie.
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I hardly consider being better than the bolded folks a ringing endorsement.
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07-20-2006, 03:10 PM
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Yea and when TJ Ford plays good next year your gonna feel like an fool (idiot). Whatever man.
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And when Charlie puts up more than the 13 and 6 he did last year and starts in the playoffs along side Andrew Bogut far into the future, you're going to wish that he was next to Bosh. Particularly when you consider that you don't trade big for small and the little guy in question is a subpar defender and has a poor jumper.
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07-20-2006, 03:33 PM
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