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06-01-2007, 10:00 AM
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Re: Randolph?
I still don't see O'Neal/Randolph/Pierce doing much more than a second round.
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06-01-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: Randolph?
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Originally Posted by #1AntoineWalkerFan
well maybe our cheap owner will realize that to make money you need a winning team...with pierce randolph and oneal we will sell more merchandise, more tickets, more games since we will be in the playoffs which means more ticket sales...and a city that gets interested in basketball again...thats how you make money
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They would have to pay at least five million dollars in luxury tax. They are not going to make that five million back from ticket sales and merchandise. Wyc is a venture capitalist. He is not a dot com billionaire and he will not lose money to improve the team.
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06-01-2007, 09:12 PM
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Re: Randolph?
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you did not just offer the blazers Sebastian Telfair back for sergio.
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Are they really stupid enough to think that we would want Telfair back?
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06-01-2007, 10:03 PM
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Re: Randolph?
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Originally Posted by Premier
You cannot have three maximum contracts on one team if your own general manager admits that your owner is cheap. O'Neal, Pierce, and Randolph combine for nearly 50M in salary for multiple seasons.
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That would be very spendy having all three of those players use up most of the payroll. I think that Randolph would be have more value in Boston than O'Neal. O'Neal seems to have some type of injury sitting out games and I don't think that if he is a top paid player that Boston can afford to have him sitting.
I'd love to see Randolph play in the East. He is odd man out in Portland and I doubt that he is going to want to come off the bench and play behind Aldridge. With the 5th pick it would give Portland a chance at nabbing a sf to round off their roster. Theo would be nice to have back (cap relief) or Wally (later cap relief), the prize would be the 5th pick for Portland and Randolph would be the prize for Boston.
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06-01-2007, 10:58 PM
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Re: Randolph?
I'm guessing Ainge is actively trying to find a team to take on Szczerbiak's contract, but I'm not sure they would want to trade his contract [26.55M left over two seasons] and a valuable selection for a redundant player in Zach Randolph who is overpaid [61.332M over four seasons], is likely to re-injure his surgically-repaired knee and wrist, and has a history as a transgressor of the law.
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06-01-2007, 11:01 PM
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Re: Randolph?
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Originally Posted by BenDavis503
Are they really stupid enough to think that we would want Telfair back?
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Please do not generalize Celtics fans or bait fanbases.
In addition, in van****'s scenario, the Celtics would trade Telfair's contract. His future in this league is questionable. The Celtics simply do not want to pay his contract and would rather include him in a trade. If Portland could get rid of Randolph for the fifth selection, they would definitely take back Telfair, only to waive him.
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06-02-2007, 07:03 AM
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Re: Randolph?
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Originally Posted by Premier
Please do not generalize Celtics fans or bait fanbases.
In addition, in van****'s scenario, the Celtics would trade Telfair's contract. His future in this league is questionable. The Celtics simply do not want to pay his contract and would rather include him in a trade. If Portland could get rid of Randolph for the fifth selection, they would definitely take back Telfair, only to waive him.
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I think you missed the point on this one. The poster wasn't referring to Celtics fans or trying to bait fan bases here. It appears he was referring to the Celtic front office. And I'm not so sure Portland would accept a 5th pick for Randolph...who knows right.
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06-02-2007, 11:28 PM
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Re: Randolph?
I think Randolph's talent is unquestioned. His judgement is another story. Do we really want this player? Oregonians, I am curious to hear your take on the character of this young man. I like his abilities....not sold on his heart, desire, or brain.
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06-03-2007, 09:28 AM
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Re: Randolph?
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Originally Posted by Truth34
I think Randolph's talent is unquestioned. His judgement is another story. Do we really want this player? Oregonians, I am curious to hear your take on the character of this young man. I like his abilities....not sold on his heart, desire, or brain.
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I hate Zach Randolph. I say this so you won't take what I say with a grain of salt. I mean I really loathe him.
Now, that being said. You just simply can't question Zach's heart or desire. He is one of the hardest working players in the league during the off season. For example he had microfracture surgery two years ago, and came back the next year and played out of shape. The following season zach came to camp in incredible shape, and destroyed the league down low. He plays God awful help and transition defense, but man to man he is at least average.
Now on to the brain. Zach is a follower. He is also a really good person. He is constantly giving money to kids and youth organizations. He just puts himself in really stupid situations. Sam Smith posted his "blotter" in one of his stories. Really, Zach hasn't done anything since 2003. This past season he went to a strip club on berievement leave. Really stupid, especially for a player trying o change his image, but he had a fairly exceptable story. (plane delayed stopped in for only a few moments.) Again, really stupid but not really wrong.
I have said this on other boards as well. Put Zach in a bigger city, with veterans on the roster for him to follow and he would probably be just fine.
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