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**Premier** · 06-19-2007, 12:59 PM

You're under the false impression that Pierce and Jefferson can run up and down the floor for 85 possessions per game. It's rather simple. When your two best players play best in a half-court offense, you play a half-court offense.

In addition, Pierce, Garnett, and the remaining team [note this trade is only possible if the Celtics trade Szczerbiak and receive a poor contract from Minnesota, likely Jaric, but hopefully Blount, in my opinion] combine for about 64M in salary per year for the next three seasons. Pierce, Jefferson, Marion, and Szczerbiak will combine for about 55M alone. A Garnett trade helps the Celtics' cap management, in my opinion, and Garnett is also much more marketable than Marion or Jefferson.

Also, Pierce, Garnett, Horford > Pierce, Jefferson, Marion, in my opinion. Lastly, according to D'Antoni, the Suns are not dealing Marion for a high first-round selection.

**whiterhino** · 06-19-2007, 01:58 PM

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You're under the false impression that Pierce and Jefferson can run up and down the floor for 85 possessions per game. It's rather simple. When your two best players play best in a half-court offense, you play a half-court offense.

In addition, Pierce, Garnett, and the remaining team [note this trade is only possible if the Celtics trade Szczerbiak and receive a poor contract from Minnesota, likely Jaric, but hopefully Blount, in my opinion] combine for about 64M in salary per year for the next three seasons. Pierce, Jefferson, Marion, and Szczerbiak will combine for about 55M alone. A Garnett trade helps the Celtics' cap management, in my opinion, and Garnett is also much more marketable than Marion or Jefferson.

Also, Pierce, Garnett, Horford > Pierce, Jefferson, Marion, in my opinion. Lastly, according to D'Antoni, the Suns are not dealing Marion for a high first-round selection.

We would not have Horford because the #5 pick goes to Minny in this deal. Also I beleive Al can run and I know Paul can run he just doesn't but I think if everyone else does he will. I would love to unload Wally's contract though, as much as I do like him and think he's a quality guy that got a bad rap I think his injuries at this point are too much to overcome and his contract always sucked.

**Premier** · 06-19-2007, 02:17 PM

I've already stated that I doubt the Celtics trade the fifth selection and Al Jefferson in a Garnett deal. I don't like to base trade scenarios on the various speculations of Chad Ford. Jefferson and Pierce may be able to run, but they are traditional half-court players and play best in traditional half-court offensive sets. Try again

**ehmunro** · 06-19-2007, 03:02 PM

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We would not have Horford because the #5 pick goes to Minny in this deal. Also I beleive Al can run and I know Paul can run he just doesn't but I think if everyone else does he will. I would love to unload Wally's contract though, as much as I do like him and think he's a quality guy that got a bad rap I think his injuries at this point are too much to overcome and his contract always sucked.

In a fast break offense you take away the best part of Jefferson's game. Further, while Jefferson can wear out opponents on the blocks (presuming he's motivated) he isn't going to wear them out running. Also, Jefferson, Marion and Pierce is a front line that's going to get killed nightly on the defensive end (those 6'9"/6'7"/6'6" lines just don't terrorise people now the way they did in the old BAA). Garnett masks Jefferson's defensive shortcomings, and he's seriously be the best postfeeder this team has had in a generation. If Boston finds a way to land Horford (or, alternatively, hold onto Jefferson) with the pick, the team would be an EC contender next year, and a legit title contender after that.

Atlanta's said to be considering a trade down, so if you work a three-way deal with the Hawks, with Rondo & #7 going to Atlanta, #3 & #5 to Minnesota (along with Green and salary filler) then Boston could well hold onto Jefferson (yes, they'd need to sign a vet for the 1, and probably buy a late first to take a flyer on someone like Pruitt, but having Jefferson to keep a defender on the blocks would go a long way to making the Pierce/Garnett tandem a viable title contender).

DaBosox · 06-19-2007, 04:23 PM

Just to build on how ******* that team would be with Pierce, AJ, Garnett: the mismatches. With Jefferson and garnett on the floor at the same time, one of them will be open in the post. I know Garnett can effectively play 3 positions, so we could be looking at a PG/Pierce/Garnett/AJ/Perk lineup that would always find a height mismatch somewhere on the floor. I'm pretty sure the offensive rebounds against the C's would drop to about 4 a game with that tall athletic lineup.

I agree with Prem too that there's no way we deal AJ and the 5 together for one player. Remember that Garnett's value is decreasing due to rumors while AJ's and the 5 are gaining. As draft day gets closer there will be more buzz, which only helps Danny. Please god don't let him **** this up.

**#1AntoineWalkerFan** · 06-19-2007, 04:28 PM

any trade for garnett that didnt include pierce and Al and i would kiss danny ainges feet on the center court logo at the garden...

does anyone think that since mchale and ainge are buddies we would have a slight advantage and not have to give up as much as is rumored??

Five5even · 06-19-2007, 06:43 PM

Pierce, #5, Gomes for Garnett, filler

this might work.

Edit aqua, please don't come in here to bait.

pokpok · 06-19-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by #1AntoineWalkerFan

any trade for garnett that didnt include pierce and Al and i would kiss danny ainges feet on the center court logo at the garden...

does anyone think that since mchale and ainge are buddies we would have a slight advantage and not have to give up as much as is rumored??

oooohhh i never thought about that

**#1AntoineWalkerFan** · 06-19-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Five5even

Pierce, #5, Gomes for Garnett, filler

this might work.

Edit aqua, quote edit

buddy...the whole point of getting KG is to put him with pierce...not replace pierce with him that would be dumb and make no sense...and when we do have KG and pierce we will make it much farther than roy and oden in the playoffs

**Premier** · 06-19-2007, 07:49 PM

Oden, Aldridge, _____, Roy, and Jack are going to dominate the NBA in five years. That's a potential dynasty.

**#1AntoineWalkerFan** · 06-19-2007, 08:15 PM

i dare portland to be able to sign every one of those guys after their rookie contracts...if they all live up to expectations portland will be able to afford one maybe 2...by the time they are good enough to dominate they will be spread all over the nba

**Premier** · 06-19-2007, 08:21 PM

Paul Allen is rich. Filthy rich.

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