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07-12-2007, 07:48 PM
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6th Man
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Re: BIG Baby got some BIG Problems
I said it on draft night and I'll say it again, Davis is a solid player, not a good fit for this team though. I thought McRoberts was a better pick to give us some height and more defense on the inside.
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07-12-2007, 10:37 PM
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Re: BIG Baby got some BIG Problems
Davis has shed pounds to get down to 295. Its not as though he looks like Gerald Green out there.
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07-13-2007, 08:21 AM
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Re: BIG Baby got some BIG Problems
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I said it on draft night and I'll say it again, Davis is a solid player, not a good fit for this team though. I thought McRoberts was a better pick to give us some height and more defense on the inside.
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No offense, but McRoberts and defense don't belong in the same sentence, unless you're talking about the glaring weakness in his game.
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07-13-2007, 11:21 AM
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Re: BIG Baby got some BIG Problems
If we were going by fit we would've picked Gasol or Gray or some other center who plays mediocre defense.
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07-13-2007, 01:46 PM
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Re: BIG Baby got some BIG Problems
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No offense, but McRoberts and defense don't belong in the same sentence, unless you're talking about the glaring weakness in his game.
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At least theres the possibility that McRoberts will block some shots.
And don't get me wrong I didn't particularly like McRoberts game, but I thought he was a better fit.
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07-14-2007, 09:07 PM
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Re: BIG Baby got some BIG Problems
Watching the last summer league game, it looks like Davis can block shots. He had 6 official blocks plus one or two that weren't counted. He also has the ability to score. I was very impressed with his effort. If the Celtics don't sign him, some other team will be very happy.
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07-14-2007, 11:19 PM
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Summer league.
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That's a pretty ignorant post right there, just because it's Summer League doesn't mean it's not basketball. There were questions in his game coming INTO the league, and his play so far in Summer League is only showing that those weaknesses did in fact translate. He might make the roster this season, but he won't be in the NBA for long.
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07-15-2007, 05:10 AM
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That's a pretty ignorant post right there, just because it's Summer League doesn't mean it's not basketball. There were questions in his game coming INTO the league, and his play so far in Summer League is only showing that those weaknesses did in fact translate. He might make the roster this season, but he won't be in the NBA for long.
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Actually your post is what is ignorant. All I wrote was "Summer League". Where did I say it was not basketball? Also, it is ignorant to assume that what you see in summer league is what you will see in the regular season. Every year there are players who do very well in SL who do nothing in real time. That is simply fact. So you take SL with a grain of salt. Davis DOMINATED last night by the way. Do you think he'll now doinate the NBA? I don't. But he will certainly "make the roster" and I think have a good NBA career.
Should we assume that Greg Oden is a bust and always will be in foul trouble? Guess he won't be in the NBA for long. Time to change your name to OJ Mayo.
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07-15-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: BIG Baby got some BIG Problems
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That's a pretty ignorant post right there, just because it's Summer League doesn't mean it's not basketball. There were questions in his game coming INTO the league, and his play so far in Summer League is only showing that those weaknesses did in fact translate. He might make the roster this season, but he won't be in the NBA for long.
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The fact is that the Celtics' VSL team ran an offensive style unsuited to Davis. Davis is a half court player who thrives running pick & rolls and pick & pops, and the Celtics did none of that with Rondo on the floor. With a roster full of half court players, odds are that the Celtics spend more time taking advantage of Davis' strengths than playing to his weaknesses once the preseason starts.
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"Opium is the religion of the masses." Fred Reed
"I do not know what the Queensberry rules are, sir, but the Wilde rules are to shoot on sight!" Oscar Wilde to the Marquis of Queensbury after being threatened by the former pugilist.
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"The account of Kobe participating in orgies and the description of the surroundings is accurate. I attended few of those parties myself..." -- Jondell R. Montgomery, Long Beach, 2006
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07-15-2007, 01:43 PM
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Re: BIG Baby got some BIG Problems
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Actually your post is what is ignorant. All I wrote was "Summer League". Where did I say it was not basketball? Also, it is ignorant to assume that what you see in summer league is what you will see in the regular season. Every year there are players who do very well in SL who do nothing in real time. That is simply fact. So you take SL with a grain of salt. Davis DOMINATED last night by the way. Do you think he'll now doinate the NBA? I don't. But he will certainly "make the roster" and I think have a good NBA career.
Should we assume that Greg Oden is a bust and always will be in foul trouble? Guess he won't be in the NBA for long. Time to change your name to OJ Mayo.
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If you actually took the time to READ my post, I said there were questions on him coming INTO the league AKA from college not Summer League. And so far what we've gotten from him in Summer League are the same questions. There's a reason he was drafted as late as he was. I said he'd probably make the roster, did I not?
I love how you get so carried away with your sarcasm that you miss the entire point of my post.
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07-15-2007, 05:28 PM
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If you actually took the time to READ my post, I said there were questions on him coming INTO the league AKA from college not Summer League. And so far what we've gotten from him in Summer League are the same questions. There's a reason he was drafted as late as he was. I said he'd probably make the roster, did I not?
I love how you get so carried away with your sarcasm that you miss the entire point of my post.
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The entire post of mine that you first responded to was:
your response, full of assumptions, was:
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That's a pretty ignorant post right there, just because it's Summer League doesn't mean it's not basketball. There were questions in his game coming INTO the league, and his play so far in Summer League is only showing that those weaknesses did in fact translate. He might make the roster this season, but he won't be in the NBA for long.
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When you start off saying a post of "Summer League" is ignorant, you lose whatever credibility you may not of had.
However I was not being sarcastic. Based on your theory, summer league counts a lot. And for the record Oden had questions about foul trouble coming INTO the league. So again, based on your theory, Oden is in trouble. But Oden will make the Portland roster, I will give you that.
And you keep ignoring Davis' last game where he dominated. So when you say "so far what we've gotten from him in Summer League are the same questions", you are again wrong. What we've gotten is a mixed bag. Neither of which holds too much water. Again, it's summer league. Summer league. I'll reserve my judgement for the big league.
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07-15-2007, 06:13 PM
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Re: BIG Baby got some BIG Problems
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The entire post of mine that you first responded to was:
your response, full of assumptions, was:
When you start off saying a post of "Summer League" is ignorant, you lose whatever credibility you may not of had.
However I was not being sarcastic. Based on your theory, summer league counts a lot. And for the record Oden had questions about foul trouble coming INTO the league. So again, based on your theory, Oden is in trouble. But Oden will make the Portland roster, I will give you that.
And you keep ignoring Davis' last game where he dominated. So when you say "so far what we've gotten from him in Summer League are the same questions", you are again wrong. What we've gotten is a mixed bag. Neither of which holds too much water. Again, it's summer league. Summer league. I'll reserve my judgement for the big league.
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I love how you assume I have thos crazy theory about anything. Big Baby was in college for 3 years, it's not like he was a frosh and go type kid. He wasn't from overseas, we got to watch him play for 3 years in college. The problems I'm supposedly gathering just from Summer League aren't actually just from a couple games of Summer League. It's from years of watching him play ball at LSU. So when I see in Summer League, the same thing I saw in college I wouldn't call that a random assumption. I'd call it a personal opinion. That's what my crystal ball tells me about the kid, you don't have to take my opinion as fact...I wouldn't expect anybody to. But this is a basketballforum, is it not? Is this not the place to discuss our opinions on basketball? If it isn't I apologize for my mistake.
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07-15-2007, 06:49 PM
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Thanks Danny!
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Listen - you called me "ignorant" for writing "Summer League". Now you are playing the card of "Is this not the place to discuss our opinions on basketball? If it isn't I apologize for my mistake." The hypocrisy is too funny.
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