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07-23-2007, 11:17 AM
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Re: Problem is (Front &) Center
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Originally Posted by cgcatsfan
Narrator,
Are you a Celtics Fan? Follow them at all?
Just asking...
Paul Pierce not an alpha dog, please.........
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Not sure what that has to do with anything but if it helps: I watch the Celts when I can and I find Tommy Heinsohn's descent into insanity hilarious. So, yeah, I'm a fan. Does that make my opinion more valid now?
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07-23-2007, 11:17 AM
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Thanks Danny!
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Re: Problem is (Front &) Center
By the way - your vocal leader does not have to be your #1 player. He just needs to be good enough, and smart enough, to have the respect of the team. We have not had a vocal leader for a while.
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07-23-2007, 11:18 AM
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Re: Problem is (Front &) Center
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By the way - your vocal leader does not have to be your #1 player. He just needs to be good enough, and smart enough, to have the respect of the team. We have not had a vocal leader for a while.
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I agree. Well said.
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07-23-2007, 11:36 AM
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Re: Problem is (Front &) Center
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By the way - your vocal leader does not have to be your #1 player. He just needs to be good enough, and smart enough, to have the respect of the team. We have not had a vocal leader for a while.
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hmmmm...who would you say was our last one???
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07-23-2007, 11:42 AM
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hmmmm...who would you say was our last one???
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I said vocal leader. Not most vocal. 
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07-23-2007, 12:38 PM
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Re: Problem is (Front &) Center
A vocal leader isn't necessarily better than a non-vocal leader.
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07-23-2007, 12:38 PM
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Re: Problem is (Front &) Center
(leading by example)
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07-23-2007, 12:47 PM
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Re: Problem is (Front &) Center
You don't have to be loud, but you need to be vocal.
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07-23-2007, 01:54 PM
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You can have the quiet guys who sit there and show you how to be a pro, but you aren't going places if you don't have the vocal guy who gets in your face and tells you what you need to be doing.
Antoine was the last guy we had that did that.
Perkins seems to be the only guy we have now that speaks up.
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07-23-2007, 02:32 PM
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Re: Problem is (Front &) Center
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You can have the quiet guys who sit there and show you how to be a pro, but you aren't going places if you don't have the vocal guy who gets in your face and tells you what you need to be doing.
Antoine was the last guy we had that did that.
Perkins seems to be the only guy we have now that speaks up.
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So being a scrub is a prerequisite? 
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07-23-2007, 09:22 PM
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Re: Problem is (Front &) Center
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id rather trade his expiring contract then hope that he plays as well as a 40 year old mutumbo
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If we can package him for an answer at center or even pg, then he's as good as gone(btw, is it even possible to get KG at this point?). But since this thread is about who can contribute, his name is going to come up simply for what he could do when he was healthy.
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07-24-2007, 10:11 AM
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Re: Problem is (Front &) Center
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Originally Posted by silverpaw1786
(leading by example)
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A fine way to lead, if I do say so myself. But example's not enough: you have to be willing to pull a guy aside and tell him what he's doing wrong. Even better, you have to pull him aside and tell him what he did right. A leader who's looked up to is able to yell and retain respect. He's also able to quietly talk to someone and forcefully make his point. Most of all, the leader never whines or makes veiled threats. The alpha dog on the team must be all of that. And Pierce isn't that. He gets respect for the way he plays - which is undeniably very, very good - but he doesn't command respect as a leader. He's never been willing to assume that role, for better or for worse. Which is why the Celts need a leader, an alpha dog if you will.
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