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10-25-2007, 12:09 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
He'd steal shots from Allen, Pierce and Garnett. The Celtics need scorers, but the kind that will finish plays, not try to make them. Other than scoring, he doesn't do much else. He would be a pretty bad fit.
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10-25-2007, 12:51 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
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Originally Posted by Avalanche
Theres enough players to just pull antoine off the floor if he starts forcing shots, he wouldnt be relied upon anymore for big periods
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Theoretically that's true. But that wouldn't happen. As a veteran, being coached by someone who loves veterans, who would also have leadership standing in the locker room, he wouldn't be yanked like he's Scalabrine. I think he'd end up seeing a lot of minutes as the big next to Garnett, which I wouldn't look forward to.
If Antoine could give up trying to be a scorer and concentrated on just being a passer, it would be fascinating to see him play point-forward for this team. Rondo's looked horrible this preseason.
Speaking of Rondo, I think his defense is vastly overrated, at least his man defense is. Guys score on him all the time, either by shooting over him or driving by him. He is however a fabulous team defender. He's wonderful at sneaking up on people for steals and playing passing lanes. Man, I really wish this team had a better point guard than Rondo.
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10-25-2007, 01:15 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
Play Antoine at PF next to Garnett. Antoine would be happy with Pierce and back in Boston, and had some very good years. At the very least he could help to spread the defense. I like the idea of adding him if it's cheap. It's the logical place for him to go.
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10-25-2007, 06:44 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
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Speaking of Rondo, I think his defense is vastly overrated, at least his man defense is. Guys score on him all the time, either by shooting over him or driving by him. He is however a fabulous team defender. He's wonderful at sneaking up on people for steals and playing passing lanes. Man, I really wish this team had a better point guard than Rondo.
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I agree with this. I think Rondo would be a great backup. I think Pruitt's going to be good in the long term, but this team is playing for a title, they don't need prospects at the 1, they need a player.
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10-25-2007, 08:09 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
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Originally Posted by LamarButler
He'd steal shots from Allen, Pierce and Garnett. The Celtics need scorers, but the kind that will finish plays, not try to make them. Other than scoring, he doesn't do much else. He would be a pretty bad fit.
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I don't think he'd steal too many shots from them. He wouldn't be starting and wouldn't be playing the same minutes he used to play. He'd come in when Perkins comes out and Garnett has to slide to center. I don't think he'd have to create too many shots either. You've seen how Perkins can get easy baskets when the defense is paying too much attention to Garnett. Walker would get those same looks. All Doc has to do is tell him to keep playing down low. We have Allen, Pierce, House, Posey, and even Scal for hitting open perimeter shots. Walker's a good rebounder when he's in position, and that's what we need more than a perimeter shooter.
And as people have pointed out, there's a lot to be said for a guy who absolutely wants to be here. His best days were as a Celtic. He stepped back to let Pierce be the man, and I don't think he'll have any problem deferring to Allen and Garnett, too. He plays with heart and would be yet another guy with years of experience under his belt and a ring to go with it. I'd certainly take him over Jackie Manuel or Brandon Wallace. Those guys don't really fill a need. We need a PF or center. If we can't get PJ Brown, Walker would be nice.
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10-25-2007, 09:54 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
Whilst true that he does want to wear the green and white more than anyone else, that's about all he's got left at this stage of the game.
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10-25-2007, 10:04 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
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Originally Posted by P-Dub34
Whilst true that he does want to wear the green and white more than anyone else, that's about all he's got left at this stage of the game.
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Maybe they can sign him to the dance squad.
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10-25-2007, 10:24 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
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Originally Posted by Perfection
Play Antoine at PF next to Garnett. Antoine would be happy with Pierce and back in Boston, and had some very good years. At the very least he could help to spread the defense. I like the idea of adding him if it's cheap. It's the logical place for him to go.
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Surely you're not suggesting he start?
I have very mixed feelings about even the IDEA of picking him up. My sentimental side says yes, my logical side says what specific need do we have that he would fill??
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10-25-2007, 10:31 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
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my logical side says what specific need do we have that he would fill??
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God forbid anything happens to garnett and hes out for an extended period of time...who do we have to replace him? scalabrine? pollard? davis? we have no reliable option backing up garnett and im not willing to sacrifice the season if he misses any time....thats what role he can fill
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10-25-2007, 10:36 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
AWF, let's be realistic here. If Garnett goes down, the season's done whether we have Walker or Spud Webb backing him up.
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"I think he is at a point in his career where he gets very distracted by having a hand in his face."
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10-25-2007, 10:41 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
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Originally Posted by P-Dub34
AWF, let's be realistic here. If Garnett goes down, the season's done whether we have Walker or Spud Webb backing him up.
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Oh of course...but im saying like lets say he goes down for 6 weeks...what do we do in the meantime?? if he goes down for the year we are lost no matter what but we cant sink to the bottom of the atlantic waiting for him to recover with scabs starting at pf
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10-25-2007, 10:46 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
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the first 25 seconds of this video is why he would be an asset back in green...
now excuse me while i watch all 5 parts to this comeback
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10-25-2007, 10:50 AM
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Re: Antoine Walker may very well be bought out
Boston is the only destination for Antoine. His game wont be any better than in Miami on any other team.
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