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Old 10-29-2007, 10:26 AM   #16 (permalink)
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But davis some think already has shown similar skill set to perkins, and cassell is so much better than rondo right now, that i say it more than makes up for it.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:01 AM   #17 (permalink)
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We'd have to get Steve Nash to make up for Paul Davis being the starting 5, with Scot Pollard backing him up.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: juwan gets his wish

I would not give up Rondo for another point guard, unless it's Nash, Kidd, or Parker. Either get a PG to backup Rondo or get a starting PG and use Rondo as backup. Getting an aging PG like Cassell without having a backup is no better than what we have now. What he brings in experience and ability will be offset by lack of mobility and susceptability to injury. We've got enough older guys now. Cassell would be great as an addition but not as a replacement. Even though Nash and Kidd are aging, I would make an exception because they are so above and beyond everybody else, that it would be worth the risk. But there's no way in hell they're coming here, so the point is moot.
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I would not give up Rondo for another point guard, unless it's Nash, Kidd, or Parker.
You wouldn't give up Rajon Rondo for Deron Williams? Chris Paul? T.J. Ford? Allen Iverson? Billups? Arenas? Felton? Baron Davis?

Uhhh...I'm pretty stoked you aren't our GM.
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There are a number of PGs I would deal Rondo for. Anthony Johnson is far, far away from being one of them.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Juwan's Wish... coming soon on Oxygen!

Seriously though, another veteran big guy looks like a real boon for you all
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Re: juwan gets his wish

There is no need for another PF. We have Garnett, Powe, Davis, and Scal there. At Center, we have Perkins and Pollard's injuries.
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What if rondo isnt cutting it by trading deadline, then you could offer rondo, scalerbrine, perkins to the clippers for cassell and paul davis.
trade Rondo and junk for an old fossil and junk? nah.......
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You wouldn't give up Rajon Rondo for Deron Williams? Chris Paul? T.J. Ford? Allen Iverson? Billups? Arenas? Felton? Baron Davis?

Uhhh...I'm pretty stoked you aren't our GM.
I didn't think through every PG in the NBA, so you are right, there are others that I would give up Rondo for, but like the 3 I mentioned, there is no way we could get them. But the ones mentioned in this thread, like Cassell and Johnson, I wouldn't want by themselves. It just seems like people are wanting to trade guys for people at the same position that wouldn't be that much of an improvement if at all, when what we really need are backups or people who are good enough to relegate the starters we have to backups. We're thin at PG and C, so why trade those guys away? We're stacked with wingmen and undersized forwards, so it seems like we should be trying to use them as bait first. I'd gladly take Cassell or Johnson if Rondo stayed.
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Well, yeah, we can't get any PGs better than Rondo by trading him, it just doesn't work that way. And I agree shipping him for Cassell or Johnson isn't a good idea.
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But davis some think already has shown similar skill set to perkins, and cassell is so much better than rondo right now, that i say it more than makes up for it.
The thing is, we don't want to move Rondo. We want a guy who can replace Rondo if he gets out of control in a close game. Rondo has a great skill-set and he's one of the couple young guys with talent we have (Didn't think I'd be saying that a year ago). Our problem is that we have Rondo and House as PGs. Everyone and their mom believes that House can't play PG, so we need a veteran PG who can eat minutes, teach Rondo, and perhaps play some pressure situations while Rondo matures.
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trade Rondo and junk for an old fossil and junk? nah.......
It's actually worse than that. It's trade Rondo, Perkins (who has the ability to be a starting caliber center in this league) and junk for an old fossil and junk that will be out of the NBA in 3 years.
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Jackie Butler is worth a look on a lot of teams, and the Celtics needs depth at C.
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