"The Celtics are targeting Wallace with the midlevel exception and sources say the team – which could be willing to pay a steep luxury tax – is also pursuing Phoenix’s Grant Hill"
Grant Hill? That's the wrong Phoenix SF... Hill can't shoot, Barnes can.
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2009-2010 Celtics
PG- Rajon Rondo, Nate Robinson
SG- Ray Allen, Tony Allen
SF- Paul Pierce, Marquis Daniels, Brian Scalabrine
PF- Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, Marcus Landry
C- Kendrick Perkins, Rasheed Wallace, Shelden Williams
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Originally Posted by hobojoe
I just don't see the Celtics being a much improved team next season, they're getting old and their skills are clearly diminishing, even if people don't want to admit it...Like I said, third best team in the East in my opinion.
i've always said ainge has a preference for certain odd players. he has favorites in the league and would only pursue those couple of guys instead of looking at the overall freeagent pool and pick the best player available. that's why the celtics haven't brought in any significant free agents despite being a contender. i'd say their last impactful signing was pj brown.
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I love that we're tryin to sign Rasheed, and we're tryin to sign a backup SF. But Danny is looking at the wrong SF. The perfect backup SF is on that same team, he must realize that. Hill is great and all, but he can't shoot, period. On a team with space liabilities like Rondo and Perkins, and double team drawers like Garnett and Perce, you'd better be getting shooters. Grant Hill IS NOT A SHOOTER. Matt Barnes IS.
The ideal, yet very realistic offseason for us is this
Re-sign Big Baby, Marbury, and Powe (for cheap).
Sign Rasheed for a large portion of the MLE. Sign Barnes for cheap- he was paid less then a million last season.
Giving us:
PG- Rajon Rondo, Stephon Marbury, Gabe Pruitt, Lester Hudson
SG- Ray Allen, Eddie House, Tony Allen, J.R. Giddens
SF- Paul Pierce, Matt Barnes, Bill Walker
PF- Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, Leon Powe
C- Kendrick Perkins, Rasheed Wallace
This would be by far the best team the Celtics have had with the Big 3. The bench would be extremely solid. Marbury and Rasheed make a nice inside-outside game, and both can create their own shots, which has always been problem for our bench. Then you'd have shooters all over the place- Rasheed we know can hit 3s as well as any big man, Big Baby has a superb mid range shot, Barnes knocks em down from 3, and Eddie is Eddie. Overall its a real talented bench.
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2009-2010 Celtics
PG- Rajon Rondo, Nate Robinson
SG- Ray Allen, Tony Allen
SF- Paul Pierce, Marquis Daniels, Brian Scalabrine
PF- Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, Marcus Landry
C- Kendrick Perkins, Rasheed Wallace, Shelden Williams
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Originally Posted by hobojoe
I just don't see the Celtics being a much improved team next season, they're getting old and their skills are clearly diminishing, even if people don't want to admit it...Like I said, third best team in the East in my opinion.
just remember that if we sign sheed, re-sign baby and marbury... we end up with
Marbury
House
?
Davis
Sheed
On the bench, 3 decent shooters from deep already and Baby's range was extending the further into last season we got.
We just need a solid player who can spell Pierce and Ray without us losing too much, Hill is a good passer and solid from mid-range i think he would be ok
Barnes is a great fit too i agree, but i dont think we are that despirate for shooting that you say no to a player like hill because of it
we are interested in Mcdyess and Wilcox aswell apparently, probably as a back up plan to Sheed, or if baby doesnt re-sign
Getting Hill wouldn't be a bad thing, but I think Barnes would be ideal- someone you can plug into a lineup with the Big 3 or Rondo, and not have to worry about spacing problems.
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2009-2010 Celtics
PG- Rajon Rondo, Nate Robinson
SG- Ray Allen, Tony Allen
SF- Paul Pierce, Marquis Daniels, Brian Scalabrine
PF- Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, Marcus Landry
C- Kendrick Perkins, Rasheed Wallace, Shelden Williams
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Originally Posted by hobojoe
I just don't see the Celtics being a much improved team next season, they're getting old and their skills are clearly diminishing, even if people don't want to admit it...Like I said, third best team in the East in my opinion.
True, i came accross an article earlier that listed the following guys as players the celtics have at least made an initial "what are you planning on doing" phone call to in free agency
Sheed
Mcdyess
Zaza
Wilcox
Hill
Daniels
Parker
Moon
Odom
Obviously things have further progressed with Sheed, and if he signs you can take Odom and Zaza off the list.. but still, i like the list
I don't understand why we wouldn't go after Barnes...
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2009-2010 Celtics
PG- Rajon Rondo, Nate Robinson
SG- Ray Allen, Tony Allen
SF- Paul Pierce, Marquis Daniels, Brian Scalabrine
PF- Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, Marcus Landry
C- Kendrick Perkins, Rasheed Wallace, Shelden Williams
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Originally Posted by hobojoe
I just don't see the Celtics being a much improved team next season, they're getting old and their skills are clearly diminishing, even if people don't want to admit it...Like I said, third best team in the East in my opinion.
Because Grant Hill is a better overall player, and is at an age where all he wants is a ring, so signing him costs less as they're contenders. If Barnes is looking for more than the LLE then Boston needs to look elsewhere. Because 'Sheed is more important.
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Stephon says he's likely not coming back cause the Celtics offered a one year deal of the veteran's exception ($1.3 million).
I believe he'll be back. We gave him the chance when he needed it, he seemed to build a good relationship with the team here, and he's got a chance at a championship here. I don't think a team will take a chance on him after seeing how rusty he was, and teams won't be confident enough in their locker rooms to take him. He'll look around and he won't get what he's looking for and he'll return to Boston.
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2009-2010 Celtics
PG- Rajon Rondo, Nate Robinson
SG- Ray Allen, Tony Allen
SF- Paul Pierce, Marquis Daniels, Brian Scalabrine
PF- Kevin Garnett, Glen Davis, Marcus Landry
C- Kendrick Perkins, Rasheed Wallace, Shelden Williams
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Originally Posted by hobojoe
I just don't see the Celtics being a much improved team next season, they're getting old and their skills are clearly diminishing, even if people don't want to admit it...Like I said, third best team in the East in my opinion.
Wizards apparently talking to Marbury but i dont know how far along thats going to go, I hope he does stick around for what we offered, we dont need to be trying to find another back up with a vet minimum contract
meanwhile, Doc is meeting with Grant Hill this week sometime