i disagree...he's proven himself as a starting 4 in this league regardless of his height...he plays much bigger than he is...he will get an offer of 5 mill if not more from a bad team that has money to spare...the only way he makes 3-4 mill is if he takes a paycut to stay with a good team like the celtics.
He doesn't "play bigger than his size" at all. He's compensated for it by learning to hit a jumper, which allows him to be effective in spite of his size. He's an effective roleplayer, no doubt. But look around at what better players (like Jason Maxiell) of the same size got, that's his financial future.
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its posts like this that will bring me out of retirement...can i make a quick not that ainge offered pierce and the number 5 pick a couple years ago so we could get the almighty greg oden! and he was denied that trade, had that gone through...pierce would be somewhere across country, ainge would be out of a job and we would still S U C K...now i will give him this...AFTER kg got here he was able to make great moves by getting posey and house and pj brown...but while this team was bad he made terrible move after terrible move...but lets hope he can do something this offseason to solidify our bench and make us back into a contender because prems right...we have one more shot at a title if we dont win this teams gonna be blown up
Disagree. He was pretty poor when it came to free agency and middling at best in trades, but was pretty solid in the draft, picking up Jefferson, Delonte, Perk, Rondo, Ryan Gomes, Leon, and Baby all out of the lottery. Additionally, when the original goal was to acquire prospects and eventually trade them for assets, it kind of ignores the point of rebuilding to point out that the team was terrible right before he turned it around. I don't believe I said that Ainge was a fantastic GM, but that he's been the most competent person the head the organization since Red's heyday, which I feel is a pretty safe statement.
EDIT: Also, while it certainly isn't the preferable scenario, a team with a core of Rondo, Durant, Jefferson, and whomever we added near the top of last year's draft and this year's isn't exactly a team without a future. Ray/KG was the best possible outcome, and I'm not arguing against it, but trying to trade for Durant would leave us with one of the more promising young teams in the East. That's hardly an indictment of Danny.
just a side note.... but from how much influence KG has shown on big baby, it would be great to get a long, athletic young guy in here (similar to anthony randolph) to learn from him and build with Rondo and Perk
just a side note.... but from how much influence KG has shown on big baby, it would be great to get a long, athletic young guy in here (similar to anthony randolph) to learn from him and build with Rondo and Perk
That was the thinking behind signing Pat O'Bryant, and we saw how that turned out. That doesn't mean that the idea is without merit, but it's difficult to find someone with the actual talent and desire along with the body we're looking for. Not exactly easy to come up with lottery talent in our position.
This trade would make me happy in the pants. I may need to run to the restroom and rub one out just from reading it.
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two players that I ignored on thisthread are Antonio Mcdyess and Zaza Pachulia.
Antonio Mcdyess because I assumed he didn't want to leave Detroit, but if is willing to then he is pretty much interchangeable with Joe Smith with a slight preference for Antonio Mcyess.
If Rasheed Wallace refuses to sign with the celtics then I'm sure Chris Andersen and Zaza Pachulia will be on their radars.
just a side note.... but from how much influence KG has shown on big baby, it would be great to get a long, athletic young guy in here (similar to anthony randolph) to learn from him and build with Rondo and Perk
Sean Williams in Boston would make me cream my pants. But I don't know what New Jersey is expecting to get in return, and whether they would trade him within the division.
If we're to look at similar past situations we can see that they traded Marcus Williams to the warriors for a future first round pick. If I were Ainge I would trade Giddens for Sean in a hearbeat. KG can straighten him out.
I hear NJ is pretty lukewarm on Williams at this point. He probably could be had for relatively cheap, though they may be stubborn with the dealing-in-division thing.
"Trade rumor out of Phoenix: Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo for Amare Stoudemire, Leandro Barbosa, and the 14th overall pick. Source: sports.ktar.com
Not sure if this is entirely speculation, but it is being talked about (Gambo & Ash) on the radio as I write this. No sources mentioned, so take it as such. They did mention that Boston initiated the proposal, and that the Suns have not made a comment on it as of yet.
On the surface, I don't like the trade. And I think most Celtics fans would feel the same way. On the flip-side, Phoenix fans are calling in, saying that Amare alone is worth Rondo and Allen. My question - where the hell would Perk play? Unless there's more to this, it makes little sense for the C's. However, this is the type of haul that Ray Allen's expiring contract, and another piece or two (not Rondo, by the way), could bring."
if this talk is going on im at least happy we are looking at big deals aswell as just end of the bench additions... but we cant trade away our starting 1 and 2 for a power forward and a sixth man
As the rumor mill churns, the Griz have been approached by several teams about acquiring the second overall pick. Boston, Houston and New York are said to be among the most recent suitors.
Boston and Houston would likely have to offer an established NBA player or two, given that neither team owns a first-round pick. New York owns the eighth pick and likely would want to move up for the opportunity to take Rubio.
Odd, but maybe they'd flip the pick to Phoenix for Stoudemire (and Barbosa pretty plz) without having to surrender Rondo.
Who the **** do you think they'd be trading to Memphis for the #2 pick? J.R. Giddens?
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Caveat, I'm pretty sure that the Memphis writer has got his wires crossed, and that what Houston and Boston called about was Memphis' second first round pick, not the second pick. That being said, if Memphis is talking about moving the pick to Boston, I'm pretty sure that OJ Mayo's BFF (Billy Walker) would need to be included as it's the only way the deal makes any sense at all (i.e. they don't like their prospects at #2, so they grab a better PG than Rubio, and OJ Mayo's best buddy as an added inducement to Mayo to commit to the Grizz long term).
I'm also positive that Boston would need to take back at least Jaric, and so include their filler expirings to make the money work. In essence, if Boston's trading Rondo, Walker and $13 million ($3 million plus the savings from dumping Marko Polo) then I can see it. It would essentially be the inverse of their deal with Portland, when the Blazers traded Seabass and approximately $12 million for Brandon Roy.
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Danny Ainge Off-season plan.
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