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Old 09-28-2003, 06:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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An ode to antoine

There once was a man named walker
The three point line he was a stalker
Shoot,shoot, shoot some more
Twenty plus points he wanted to score
He wore the unifom number of 8
His field goal percentage was 38
Perhaps last year he was a liitle fat
Losing 25lbs might help his fg% stat
He loves to wiggle after each big play
Stats dont improve he wont stay
Theres a new big bad guy in town
Naming danny gm gave antoine a frown
Hes a player with a vast amount of athletic gift
Used right they could give the team a big lift
But this year which antoine walker will we see
Will he still make his major focus the three

GO antoine
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Old 09-28-2003, 06:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just curious, but did he run over your dog or something? I mean I agree with the idea that he'd be a far better player if he used his gifts on the inside versus the outside, but I wouldn't write a little poem about it.
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Just curious but are you serious? lighten up dude..
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I thought it was pretty funny
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Old 09-28-2003, 07:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
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thanks dude humor intended!
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It was humorous, but the rhythm was WAY off and I'm such a stickler on that facet of poetry.
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Old 09-28-2003, 10:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Just curious but are you serious? lighten up dude..
By itself, the poem is fine, but you've made like three or four topics that are talking down about Walker -- while the dog comment was obviously a joke, I do seriously wonder if you have something aginst him.
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Got nothing against him but like to poke fun at his game.


I thought moderators were supposed to be nice, evidently not.
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Got nothing against him but like to poke fun at his game.


<b>I thought moderators were supposed to be nice, evidently not. </b>
Moderators are nice here - what is bothering you? Send me a pm though, as that is off topic for this thread.
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Really i think what was said to me by both you and igloo was said in public and should be dealt with there.


unless you feel calling an opinon different than yours idiocy.

Do you have a boss because i personally expect every once in a while to be flamed by regular posters but to have it done by 2 mods is outrageous!
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Really i think what was said to me by both you and igloo was said in public and should be dealt with there.


unless you feel calling an opinon different than yours idiocy.

Do you have a boss because i personally expect every once in a while to be flamed by regular posters but to have it done by 2 mods is outrageous!
Excuse me, but I am one of 6 bosses here and I did NOT call you an idiot anywhere! Now, if you want to show me where any moderator called you an idiot. Please use the url and the EXACT and entire quote.

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Old 09-28-2003, 03:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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http://www.basketballboards.net/foru...3&pagenumber=2

the original post was on page 1.

two posts down from where i originally express a complaint about this you posted trying by what i could guess to start a fight with me. or maybe that is the way to deal with all customer relations?
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Yes lets just not look at what the stats say, . He is not a point guard, he was not even as good as jrbremer.

He averages approx 4-5 assists for 42 minutes of play, tell me what other starting pg that plays those minutes on a playoff team with those lousy numbers.

re the comment on aws leadership: I saw aw be a verbal leader in the ecf finals in that great comeback win. I saw pp and tony battie, and tony delk fired up omn the court but saw little from aw. He takes open shots because he knows he has to shoot as much as he can to get his 20 points.


I dont not want aw on this team, i want him to grow up and put his money where his mouth is. He proclaims to be a leader but on the court he shows otherwise. What does he do to make his teamates better? Why is he so beyond reproach that he wont listen to advice from the greatest player ever michael jordan?

This is a team game and aw is not a team player, he is too selfish takes too many bad shots and makes bad desicionbs with the ball. This is not all his fault, with another coaching staff this guy could be a perennial all star, a future hall of famer and probaly be wearing one or two rings. he could be that good but unfortunately he would not listen to perhaps the greatest champion ever .......

If only aw had waltahs effort....


Insulting Antoine's shot selection is one thing, but bashing his leadership skills and his effort is idiocy.

What does Antoine do to make his teammates better? I don't know, did you read any of the six or seven articles that were written days after the New Jersey series where Antoine went to each of his teammates and said, "You need to work on this and here's what I'm going to work on." How about him flying the rookies and new faces into Chicago so he can meet up with them during the offseason? How about delivering a speech that led to the greatest comeback in NBA playoff history? If you followed this team at all, you'd know that Paul Pierce probably wouldn't be half the player he is right now if Antoine wasn't here as the team captain, not to mention that in the Indiana series he made Walter McCarty look like a competent offensive player.

Questioning Antoine's effort, particularly after last season, is rediculous. He sprained his knee in a game against Philly in January and the initial diagnosis was that he'd be out for 3 weeks. He missed four games and came back in a loss to Detroit. He played five or six games with the knee brace he was told to wear the rest of the season and then played 40+ minutes a game for the remaining two months of th season and the playoffs. If that's not commendable effort, then I don't know what is. And please don't say he was hurting the team. I'd take a one legged Antoine over last season's drunken, fat Vin Baker any day of the week.

You also are harping Antoine on his turnover. Looking at the top 20 in TPG (Antoine is 10), you'll see names like Jason Kidd, Steve Francis, the immortal Paul Pierce, Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson (all ahead of Toine) and guys like Stephon Marbury, Chris Webber, Tim Duncan, Shaq O'Neal, and Kevin Garnett with in half a turnover per game of Antoine. Could this be because they all have something in common? I think so. When you play 40+ minutes per game and touch the ball atleast once in every possession, you are bound to rack up a few turnovers. A more indicitive number of Antoine's turnovers in comparison with the rest of the league would be to look at TOs per 48 minutes. Antoine was tied for 19 last year with Iverson, Webbert, Marbury, and Jason Terry. He continues to be far behind guys like Gilbert Arenas, Kidd, Francis, Pierce (who's 6th by the way), Scottie Pippen and Kobe Bryant.

If you think Antoine is the issue with the Celtics and that they'd be that much closer to 17 if they dealt him, you are disillusioned and that's really all there is to it.
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here is what a gent posted for his own limmerick.. My name is Antoine Walker and my shot has always stunk,/
From near or far or in between the sound you hear is clunk./I’ll jack a trey, I’ll hoist a deuce, I’ll chuck it from the line,/
If I can even hit the rim, you know I’m doing fine./I’ll clank eight treys, but what the heck I’ll clank a dozen more,/
O’Brien says, “Go right ahead, but first please holler ‘FORE!’”/You fans have seen me drive the lane and smash it off the glass,/
For guys who don’t turn quick enough the rock shoots up their ***./I’m known as thirty-nine percent, a stat of which I’m proud,/
I think it’s quite enough to earn the plaudits of the crowd./If I can somehow make a hoop, I shimmy and I shake,/
And give a wink to Pervis Two, let’s show that bum a break./So when you buy the paper, please peruse my brilliant line,/
If I’ve gone 5 for 21 that shows I’m in my prime
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