Zach

Why do we have it if they won't use it? They should do one of two things. After all Automatic Bids are won, they should take the next highest rated RPI teams. There is no reason a team ranked 32nd in the RPI doesn't get in the tourney. Or they should just get rid of the RPI, seal Automatic Bids and possibly move to 128 teams. It's almost the only way to make sure every team that deserves to gets in, gets in. I don't know. I don't really like either option all that much but I lean towards the first one. What do you think they should do?

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coolpohle

I thought the committee did a good job this year, and I really don't have any complaints. It's really not all that uncommon for mid-majors to get snubbed with an RPI in the 30s. Even Missouri St. missed a few years ago with an RPI of 21. They view the mid-majors and the BCS schools differently, because a BCS school with an RPI of 32 would never not get a bid. Dayton went 9-9 in the A10, while Illinois St. didn't beat anyone out of conference, and was unable to beat Drake in three chances.

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JuniorNoboa

Sounds like an Arizona fan who is tired of getting beaten up by nitter Arizona St fans.

ktabz16

time to dump the rpi. not in judging teams themselves but in judging your results. it makes me chuckle when blowhards like jay bilas dismiss individual rpi rankings with one hand and then turn around and pimp top 50 wins as the main criteria. is there a difference between syracuse and creighton? not really, but one team gets credit for beating creighton, and doesn't for beating syracuse. it's all a crapshoot. beat kentucky or temple? get credit for temple, not kentucky. 50 is an arbitrary number, it's ridiculous.

perfect example is umass (i'm using them as an example because i know the situation) on feb. 22 they had a 5-2 record vs the top 50 and 9 top 100 wins. then over the course of 3 weeks, it turned into 1 top 50 win and 5 top 100 wins. meanwhile, the team went 6-1 over that time period. so they go 6-1 and go from bubble in to out of consideration.

let's use conference ooc top 50 wins rather than conference rpi as well:

ACC 15 12 teams=1.25/tm HI: UNC, Duke 4 each Depth: 8 75%

SEC 13 12 teams=1.08/tm HI: Tenn 7 Depth: 5 41%

B12 13 12 teams=1.08/tm HI: Okla, Tex 3 each Depth: 8 41%

P10 9 10 teams=0.9/tm HI: UCLA, Wash St, Zona 2 each Depth: 6 60%

BE 9 16 teams=0.56/tm HI: Prov 2 Depth: 8 50%

A10 8 14 teams=0.57/tm HI: Xav 4 Depth: 3 21%

MVC 6 10 teams=0.6/tm HI: S Ill 3 Depth 4 40%

CUSA 6 12 teams=0.5/tm HI: Mem 6 Depth 1 8%

B10 5 11 teams=0.45/tm HI: Mich St 2 Depth 4 36%

MWC 1 9 teams =0.11/tm HI: BYU 1 Depth 1 11%

interesting numbers, it suggests to me that the middles of these conferences are comparable, they just don't have a chance to compete against the 8-10 legit national title contenders. it makes sense since we all know that your rpi will improve just by losing to a top 10 team, while your rpi will drop by winning against a horrible team.

apelman42

The chairman of the selection committee answered this right after they introduced the brackets on CBS. He said something along the lines of the RPI being the starting point as to who should be looked at, but it wasn't the ending point when teams were selected (i.e. the ending point being the fact that they just don't take the next 34 teams in the RPI after the auto bids).

As most have said, I thought they did a fine job this year...I thought ASU and ISU deserved in over Oregon and 'Nova, but hey, everyone had the same chance.

Zach

No. I hate the BCS.

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Zach

Not at all. ASU should be in the tournament. I am not knocking the tourney selections. I am just trying to figure out why they have a grading system that in effect means nothing yet analysts will be quick to point out Top 50 wins. For the most part I like this year's field. I think they did as good of a job as they could with this year's class. The RPI just makes no sense to me.

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HKF

ASU deserved to be out. Don't load up on cupcakes and then be rewarded. Fug outta here.

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BengalDuck

I agree, ASU has no business being in there. Sure they got screwed by the refs against USC... and if they had managed to win that game in OT it would've assured them a spot, but...

They played a terrible, terrible OOC schedule. And they played all but one of their OOC at home.
They finished the season 5-10 in their last 15 games. They failed to win a game in the Pac-10 tourney that would've locked them in to a spot.
Unlike Arizona and Oregon (the two other bubble teams from the conference), ASU suffered no serious injuries (and the committee does take that in to account).

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