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JuniorNoboa · 03-14-2010, 02:30 PM

1 Kansas
Kentucky
Syracuse
West Virginia

2 Kansas St
Temple
Duke
Ohio St

3 Villanova
New Mexico
Baylor
Georgetown

4 Pitt
Wisconsin
Purdue
Maryland

5 Northern Iowa
BYU
Texas AM
Tennessee

6 Vanderbilt
Richmond
Michigan St
Butler

7 Xavier
Oklahoma St
Texas
Notre Dame

8 Gonzaga
Clemson
Marquette
Wake Forest

9 Georgia Tech
Washington
Old Dominion
San Diego St

10 Florida St
St Marys
UTEP
UNLV

11 Louisville
Cal
Missouri
Utah St

12 Cornell
Virginia Tech
Minnesota
Siena

13 New Mexico St
Houston
Wofford
Murray St

14 UC Santa Barbara
Montana
Ohio
Oakland

15 Vermont
Sam Houston St
North Texas
East Tennessee St

16 Robert Morris
Morgan St
Winthrop
Lehigh
Arkansas Pine Bluff

JuniorNoboa · 03-14-2010, 02:52 PM

Note : Missouri and Virginia Tech had to switch 11 and 12 seeds to meet if possible conference guidelines. THAT DOES NOT CHANGE MY PREDICTION IN ABOVE POST

Overall 1 Seed - Kansas
Brackets
Kansas vs West Virginia
Syracuse vs Kentucky

REGION ST LOUIS

POD Oklahoma City

1 Kansas
16 Arkansas Pine Bluff

8 Marquette
9 Georgia Tech

POD Milwaukee

4 Purdue
13 Murray St

5 Northern Iowa
12 Siena

POD Providence

2 Temple
15 Vermont

7 Texas
10 Florida St

POD Providence

3 Villanova
14 Oakland

6 Butler
11 Cal

REGION HOUSTON

POD Buffalo

1 Syracuse
16 Morgan St

8 Gonzaga
9 Old Dominion

POD San Jose

4 Maryland
13 New Mexico St

5 Tennessee
12 Missouri

POD Milwaukee

2 Ohio St
15 Sam Houston St

7 Oklahoma St
10 UNLV

POD San Jose

3 New Mexico
14 UC Santa Barbara

6 Richmond
11 Louisville

REGION SYRACUSE

POD New Orleans

1 Kentucky
16 Winthrop

8 Clemson
9 San Diego St

POD Spokane

4 Pitt
13 Wofford

5 Texas AM
12 Minnesota

POD Oklahoma City

2 Kansas St
15 North Texas

7 Xavier
10 UTEP

POD Jacksonville

3 Georgetown
14 Ohio

6 Michigan St
11 Virginia Tech

REGION SALT LAKE CITY

POD Buffalo

1 West Virginia
16 Robert Morris vs Lehigh

8 Wake Forest
9 Washington

POD Spokane

4 Wisconsin
13 Houston

5 BYU
12 Cornell

POD Jacksonville

2 Duke
15 East Tennessee St

7 Notre Dame
10 St. Marys

POD New Orleans

3 Baylor
14 Montana

6 Vanderbilt
11 Utah St

coolpohle · 03-14-2010, 04:44 PM

You wanna tally up are scores, JN? I'm busy doing my bracket.

I really have no idea how I did compared to others. I seemed to have missed quite a bunch but I'm sure others did as well.

Willo · 03-14-2010, 08:46 PM

I got 64 teams and 27 seeds correct.

JuniorNoboa · 03-14-2010, 10:10 PM

I got 25 right.

The amount i get right is NEVER a grade of my work, but a grade of the committee. Quite frankly, I know what I am doing. Since I got less right then normal, it simply means the committee did a very poor job this year, and started from the disgrace as Duke`s ranking on the 1 line, and the fact that they are a number one seed. Right from that choice, it became clear we were dealing with a committee that lacked the competence to deal with the basic parameters that had been established and that are used to evalute teams.

When I get more right, it is not about me, it just means the committee did a good job.

coolpohle · 03-15-2010, 05:03 AM

There are a lot of things you can find in the committee that they did wrong. But picking on the Duke one is weak. Temple, Notre Dame, Marquette, etc. I'll give you those. But what did West Virginia do that was so impressive that they should have been a one over Duke? They lost at home twice - something Duke was never in danger of doing, and they did nothing to say they deserved a one over Duke.

JuniorNoboa · 03-15-2010, 11:32 AM

Games are not played at home in the tournament. If two teams are tied, then road wins are more important then home losses. But my opinion is much more then Duke. Duke is only a small part of their errors, but a very visible one because it is at the one line. Also, giving Duke the rights to the weakest 2 and 4 seed is questionable.

But anyway, my failing grade more about the amount of teams that were off by two seeds... much more than normal... I will make some mistakes, but my opinions are pretty static from year to year... so I expect teams within a seed to be pretty close to my past performance.

I just think in a year where there was more at large seeds to non mid-majors they actually gave less respect in mid major seeding then normal.

coolpohle · 03-15-2010, 12:00 PM

Games are not played on the road in the tournament, either.

And I doubt the committee sat there and said, let's give Duke the easiest 2 and 4 seeds. They're just busy making sure they fit all the bracket rules.

JuniorNoboa · 03-15-2010, 12:03 PM

The committee has always mentioned that it tries to balance the sweet 16 seeds. These seeds are always put on the bracket first. Its not that hard to balance.

Yes Duke was going to get an easy 4 seed, because they try to avoid rematches as long as possibe... so out if Wisconisn.. Maryland did not fit.... so it came down to Vandy or Purdue.

But why wasn`t the second seed Ohio St or West Virginia. West Virginia is a simple flop. Ohio St could have been put in, move Purdue to Kansas, move Vandy to Duke,and move Maryland to Syracuse.

There is absolutely no way a committee with any common sense could have seen the top four seeds as balanced.

coolpohle · 03-15-2010, 12:04 PM

Well, they couldn't have put Maryland in Duke's region, and Vandy is just as weak as Purdue is.

coolpohle · 03-15-2010, 12:06 PM

I beat you by a point JN! lol...I guess none of us three on here did very well. Or as you like to say, the committee didn't do well.

JuniorNoboa · 03-15-2010, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolpohle

Well, they couldn't have put Maryland in Duke's region, and Vandy is just as weak as Purdue is.

I re-edited my prior post (may want to read it)... the only choices they had at 4 were Vandy or 4 Purdue, so they were getting an easy matchup. Wisconsin is only a convention, but they try to avoid rematches. And obviously the committee thinks Vandy is better then us, because they have them on the four.

My main concern is at the two line. Do you think Villanova is the sixth best team. It should have been Kansas St, WVU or Ohio St, and an adjustment would have been easy.

Now perhaps the committee truly beleives Villanova was the number six team... the question is then,, why!!!

JuniorNoboa · 03-15-2010, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolpohle

I beat you by a point JN! lol...I guess none of us three on here did very well. Or as you like to say, the committee didn't do well.

Saying the committee didnt do well, is the more childish way to say it, but I did. But in a way our opinions are pretty static from year to year... we just didnt become dumber or smarter overnight.

I am sure the people that scored best this year, still scored quite a bit lower than the highest scorers in prior years.

JuniorNoboa · 03-15-2010, 12:24 PM

At the end of the day I can`t complain as an SU fan. We should have been the three team, and the right second round matchup would have been either Kasnas St or Ohio St.

We should have got the second best four seed in our group, and we ended up with arguably the worst.

Its really Kansas that got shafted here. But they are still likely walking away with the title.

JuniorNoboa · 03-15-2010, 12:28 PM

And the other positive, is that this has reignited my hate for Duke. I haven`t really hated Duke for about three or four years, and this just ignited the flame (whether its a stupid reason or not)

And something just feels good about really cheering against Duke again.

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