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Old 06-14-2004, 07:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I was just saying that he wouldn't be a FA if Charlotte drafted him. He will still probably opt out and look for more money.
Good point, I should probably denote those with a player option in the list. I'll go back and edit the post.
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Old 06-14-2004, 07:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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That's $26.918 million for 12 players. Add the $3 million for the #4 pick and they're right at their salary cap. Maybe even just a little over, meaning someone would have to go.
I think they allowed to go over the cap to sign their own player, aren't they? Or is this different than it is with 'normal teams'.
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I'm now thinking this might be the way to do it. Main changes are Brian Skinner not a free-agent, Fizer added, Pachulia added, several guys removed beings the Bobcats probably wouldn't really be interested in them. Reading the rules, it's interesting that with RFAs that they get the Bird rights, etc. of the old team.

1-Antoine Walker-6’10”, 245 lbs (PF/SF). Dallas.
2-Alexander Pavolovic-6’7“, 210 lbs (SG/SF). Utah.
3-Gerald Wallace-6’7”, 215 lbs (SG/SF). Sacramento.
4-Troy Bell-6’2”, 180 lbs (PG). Memphis rookie
5-Vladimir Stepania-7’1”, 255 lbs (C). Portland.
6-Brian Skinner-6’10”, 265 lbs (PF). Milwaukee.
7-Jason Kapono-6’8”, 213 lbs (SF). Cleveland rookie.
8-Juan Dixon-6’3”, 164 lbs (PG). Washington.
9-Zaza Pachulia-6’11”, 240 lbs (C). Orlando rookie.
10-Marcus Fizer-6’8”, 260 lbs (PF). Chicago, becomes free-agent.
11-Courtney Alexander-6’5”, 205 lbs (SG). Charlotte, becomes free-agent.
12-Jamal Sampson-6’11”, 235 lbs (PF/C). LA Lakers rookie.
13-Eddie House-6’1”, 175 lbs (PG/SG). LA Clippers.
14-Cezary Trybanksi-7’1”, 240 lbs (C). New York.
15-Richie Frahm-6’5”, 210 lbs (SG). Seattle rookie, becomes free-agent.
I like this one a lot, except I could see the Bobcats taking Dupree over Fizer because Dupree can contribute, while Fizer may not sign. The other correction I would make is taking Brandon Hunter instead of Trybanksi...smaller contract, more physical guy, better rebounder, and not a stiff. With the money freed up by taking Hunter overy Trybanksi, why not take Anthony Johnson instead of James Jones to give the Bobcats an actual point guard (not a combo guard with bad decision making).

Edit, I swore I read Anthony Johnson as one of the ones exposed somewhere else, but seeing the other thread in this forum, maybe not.
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I like this one a lot, except I could see the Bobcats taking Dupree over Fizer because Dupree can contribute, while Fizer may not sign. The other correction I would make is taking Brandon Hunter instead of Trybanksi...smaller contract, more physical guy, better rebounder, and not a stiff. With the money freed up by taking Hunter overy Trybanksi, why not take Anthony Johnson instead of James Jones to give the Bobcats an actual point guard (not a combo guard with bad decision making).

Edit, I swore I read Anthony Johnson as one of the ones exposed somewhere else, but seeing the other thread in this forum, maybe not.
Good ideas. Hunter makes sense as does the concept of getting a true PG. Walker perhaps works well with the combo PGs when he's on the floor, but would still be nice to get a true PG for certain situations (especially when Walker is out).
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1-Antoine Walker-6’10”, 245 lbs (PF/SF). Dallas.
2-Alexander Pavolovic-6’7“, 210 lbs (SG/SF). Utah.
3-Gerald Wallace-6’7”, 215 lbs (SG/SF). Sacramento.
4-Troy Bell-6’2”, 180 lbs (PG). Memphis rookie
5-Vladimir Stepania-7’1”, 255 lbs (C). Portland.
6-Brian Skinner-6’10”, 265 lbs (PF). Milwaukee.
7-Jason Kapono-6’8”, 213 lbs (SF). Cleveland rookie.
8-Juan Dixon-6’3”, 164 lbs (PG). Washington.
9-Lorenzen Wright(C). Memphis
10-Marcus Fizer-6’8”, 260 lbs (PF). Chicago, becomes free-agent.
11-Courtney Alexander-6’5”, 205 lbs (SG). Charlotte, becomes free-agent.
12-Brian Cook(C). LA Lakers rookie.
13-Qyntel Woods(SG). Houston
14-Zaza Pachulia-6’11”, 240 lbs (C). Orlando rookie.

thats who i think they should take. w/ #4, i'd draft ben gordon. he's a PG w/ 3 years of college experience, won the title, and is a good scorer. then in the 2nd round, draft PF Arthur Johnson.

PG- Gordon, Dixon, Bell
SG- Alexander, Woods, Pavolovic
SF- Walker, Wallace, Kopono
PF- Skinner, Johnson, Fizer
C- Wright, Cook, Stepania, Zaza

thats not bad for an expansion team. i think gordon is the best PG in the draft. dixon and bell are young, quick, and would be good backups. alexander is pretty good. i've never heard of pavolovic, and i like woods. toine would be their main scorer, and would give them a big name and a guy they can go to towards the end of the game. wallace and kapono are solid backups. skinner's pretty good, fizer's young and decent, and i think johnson will be a good player in the NBA. wright, stepania, and zaza are pretty good. i think cook has potential. he'll be good in a few years.
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Old 06-15-2004, 07:17 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Wizards: Jerry Stackhouse SG - Good leader and scorer if healthy
Blazers: Qyntel Woods SF - good athletic young player
Cavs: Jason Kapono SF - great shooter, only second season
Knicks: Penny Hardaway SG - experienced leader
Sonics: Jerome James C - young 7 footer, nuff said
Celtics: Chucky Atkins PG - good experienced point
Grizzlies: Troy Bell PG - Big upside, could develop well
Magic: Zaza Pachulia C - another good young big man
Kings: Gerald Wallace SF - great dunker, excitement for fans
Mavericks: Danny Fortson PF - great rebounder, brings defence
Bulls: Marcus Fizer PF - great upside, could develop well
Pacers: Austin Croshere F - Playoffs, period.
#4 - Shaun Livingston

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SG: Stackhouse
SF: Woods
PF: Fortson
C: James

Not great, but a start
I'm not really that good with contracts n stuff, but it doesnt look overly expensive
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Charlotte would be over if they just took Stack, Penny, Croshere, and Fort.
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Wizards: Jerry Stackhouse SG - Good leader and scorer if healthy
Blazers: Qyntel Woods SF - good athletic young player
Cavs: Jason Kapono SF - great shooter, only second season
Knicks: Penny Hardaway SG - experienced leader
Sonics: Jerome James C - young 7 footer, nuff said
Celtics: Chucky Atkins PG - good experienced point
Grizzlies: Troy Bell PG - Big upside, could develop well
Magic: Zaza Pachulia C - another good young big man
Kings: Gerald Wallace SF - great dunker, excitement for fans
Mavericks: Danny Fortson PF - great rebounder, brings defence
Bulls: Marcus Fizer PF - great upside, could develop well
Pacers: Austin Croshere F - Playoffs, period.
#4 - Shaun Livingston

Lineup:
PG: Livingston
SG: Stackhouse
SF: Woods
PF: Fortson
C: James

Not great, but a start
I'm not really that good with contracts n stuff, but it doesnt look overly expensive
What about the #5 pick. We also get that. I would take Luol Deng as #4 and Livingston as #5. Deng would be great as the SF.
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What about the #5 pick. We also get that. I would take Luol Deng as #4 and Livingston as #5. Deng would be great as the SF.
Why do you get the 5th pick?
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Why do you get the 5th pick?
'cause it's rumored on espn that Washington said if we take Stackhouse from them, they'll give us their pick.
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Yeah I saw it in the other threads now. What we should do is try to trade the #5 for #1 and Grant Hill. Then cut Hill and draft Okafor. Then draft Shaun at 4. Expansion:
Jerry Stackhouse (SG/SF)-Main scorer along with Walker. Hopefully will bring veteran leadership.
Antoine Walker (SF/PF)-Main scorer along with Stackhouse. Hopefully will bring the leadership also. Help bring up the ball.
Lorenzen Wright (PF/C)-Bring the toughness and defense this brand new team will need.
Gerald Wallace (SG/SF)-Can bring the excitement of his play off the bench. Highflyer.
Alexander Pavolovic (SG/SF)-Good young European talent.
Zaur Pachulia (PF/C)-Young talented big man.
Omar Cook (PG)-Good young PG. Has a lot of potential.
Vladimir Stepania (PF/C)-Big body for down low.
Erick Strickland (PG/SG)-Veteran to help out with the very young PGs.

Wright/Stepania
Okafor/Pachulia
Walker/Wallace
Stackhouse/Pavolovic
Livingston/Cook/Strickland

This can be a playoff team in the East. Is this under the cap or close?
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Yeah I saw it in the other threads now. What we should do is try to trade the #5 for #1 and Grant Hill. Then cut Hill and draft Okafor. Then draft Shaun at 4. Expansion:
Jerry Stackhouse (SG/SF)-Main scorer along with Walker. Hopefully will bring veteran leadership.
Antoine Walker (SF/PF)-Main scorer along with Stackhouse. Hopefully will bring the leadership also. Help bring up the ball.
Lorenzen Wright (PF/C)-Bring the toughness and defense this brand new team will need.
Gerald Wallace (SG/SF)-Can bring the excitement of his play off the bench. Highflyer.
Alexander Pavolovic (SG/SF)-Good young European talent.
Zaur Pachulia (PF/C)-Young talented big man.
Omar Cook (PG)-Good young PG. Has a lot of potential.
Vladimir Stepania (PF/C)-Big body for down low.
Erick Strickland (PG/SG)-Veteran to help out with the very young PGs.

Wright/Stepania
Okafor/Pachulia
Walker/Wallace
Stackhouse/Pavolovic
Livingston/Cook/Strickland

This can be a playoff team in the East. Is this under the cap or close?
Dude you're a genius. That team is playoff bound, prolly make it to the 2nd round.
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Dude you're a genius. That team is playoff bound, prolly make it to the 2nd round.
Thank you and hopefully if I am correct they would actually be around the cap.
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Chad Ford did this:

Point guard: Jamal Crawford, Troy Bell
Shooting guard: Gerald Wallace, Qyntel Woods
Small forward: Alexsandar Pavlovic, Michael Curry
Power forward: Stromile Swift, Brian Cardinal, Brandon Hunter
Center: Emeka Okafor, Zaza Pachulia, Jamal Sampson

Take Laettner, J.White, and Campbell, drop them all

Wiz trade the 5th to Charlotte Char trades 4 and 5 for 1st
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Kevin Garnett: “Okafor is having a great year. He’s strong, a very good rebounder and active around the basket. He’s playing like an animal right now.”
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Chad Ford did this:

Point guard: Jamal Crawford, Troy Bell
Shooting guard: Gerald Wallace, Qyntel Woods
Small forward: Alexsandar Pavlovic, Michael Curry
Power forward: Stromile Swift, Brian Cardinal, Brandon Hunter
Center: Emeka Okafor, Zaza Pachulia, Jamal Sampson

Take Laettner, J.White, and Campbell, drop them all

Wiz trade the 5th to Charlotte Char trades 4 and 5 for 1st
They won't trade us the 5th pick unless we take Stackhouse.
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