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i don't see them winning more than 10, not in this league. That said I think Brandon Hunter could be a good rebounder for you guys and help Emeka on the boards.
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08-10-2004, 04:00 PM
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08-12-2004, 10:10 PM
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How many games did the expansion grizzlise and raptors win their first years?
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08-14-2004, 08:51 PM
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I peg them to win anywhere from 15-18 games. If you look at the history of expansion teams, at www.basketballreference.com, the teams have always done better than expected and usually get around 15 to 20 wins. If you look at their rosters and their minute leaders, they had similar talent as the Bobcats and usually worse.
In 1988, Miami had 15 wins, the Hornets had 20. In '89 the Magic had 18 wins. In '95, the Grizzlies won 15, the Raptors won 21.
The Cats' roster does not look that bad when compared to other expansion teams -- the other teams often had a few over-the-hill guys and a so-so pick. The Bobcats at least have a more solid initial pick to work with than these other teams.
For example, Toronto's first pick was Damon Stoudamire. Vancouver had Bryant "Big Country" Reeves. Charlotte had Rex Chapman. Orlando had Nick Anderson. Miami had Seikaly.
All of these guys were decent, but I don't think any of them had the possible franchise potential that Okafor has.
The reason why I kind of low-balled them though in comparison to the other teams out there is due to the fact that those other expansions had at least another team to share their misery. Also, it seems alot of last season's cellar dwelling teams haven't gotten any worse and most should be better. If the Bobcats had come in last season I'd think they would have better chances. |
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08-28-2004, 06:37 PM
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Yes it can. Look at flip murray. There are a lot of promising young players that just need to be given a chance.
Okafor is too good not to win 10 games anyway. Guys like Okafor are winners. He'll have a bad season but i see them as a .350 team, which isn't too bad for an expansion team.
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No way they are a .350 team their first season. That would be 29 wins. The grizzlies didn't accomplish that until this past season and theres no way the team they have now is better than the Grizzlies two seasons ago that only won 28.
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08-28-2004, 08:58 PM
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No way they are a .350 team their first season. That would be 29 wins. The grizzlies didn't accomplish that until this past season and theres no way the team they have now is better than the Grizzlies two seasons ago that only won 28.
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08-29-2004, 11:20 AM
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well, for one Loren Woods is a Raptor.. not that it makes a difference anyways.
if the bobcats want to win 20+ games, they should sign jerry sloan as the head coach.
he lead a team whose combined starting lineup's salaries was less than the MLE to 2 games shy of the playoffs in the West.
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08-30-2004, 02:15 PM
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fizer white barry best....etc
ok bobcats sign some guys. lots of them would do one year deals. Do things like that. And this thread wouldnt exist. The bobcats are being so stingy that I think (like them or not) they are setting themselves up to set some awfully bad records in the NBA.
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fizer white barry best....etc
ok bobcats sign some guys. lots of them would do one year deals. Do things like that. And this thread wouldnt exist. The bobcats are being so stingy that I think (like them or not) they are setting themselves up to set some awfully bad records in the NBA.
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How would you feel if I come to your board and trash your nuggets? You wouldn't like that, would you? Then respect the Charlotte fans and stop downing our team.
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Re: Can this team win 10 games?
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Look..I don't want to be known as a Bobcat-hater here. In fact, I wish them the best, I like Okafor, Kapono, and Woods. However, let's be honest. This teams starting line-up will look something like this:
PG: Jason Hart
SG: Gerald Wallace
SF: Jason Kapono
PF: Emeka Okafor
C: Melvin Ely or Loren Woods
Can that team honestly win 10 games this season?
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East is weak. they have a chance to win 29 games, playoff prone.
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Re: Can this team win 10 games?
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Originally posted by <b>Wagner2</b>!
Look..I don't want to be known as a Bobcat-hater here. In fact, I wish them the best, I like Okafor, Kapono, and Woods. However, let's be honest. This teams starting line-up will look something like this:
PG: Jason Hart
SG: Gerald Wallace
SF: Jason Kapono
PF: Emeka Okafor
C: Melvin Ely or Loren Woods
Can that team honestly win 10 games this season?
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YES they can maybe with 10 Okafor great games 
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Re: Re: Can this team win 10 games?
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East is weak. they have a chance to win 29 games, playoff prone.
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Thats crazy not even close
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If Tracy McGrady and scrubs barely reached the 20 mark, then how are Emeka Okafor and scrubs going to? Think about it. This isn't like the NFL and the Houston Texans first year where they could just out-work everyone. The NBA is a league where talent rules all
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Which would explain the Lakers sweeping the overmatched Detroit Pitons in the NBA Fin... wait never mind, the Pistons didn't have near the talent of the lakers, and beat them for the championship in 5 games.
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You are just an idiot if you think the bobcats wont win ten games. the only way that would happen is if they became a football team.... any way I give the bobcats 20 wins, LOOK AT THERE DIVISION. uh oh not the magic and the hawks!  Plus the bobcats know they arent going to be contending even in the east. they are playing for pride with a bunch of young guns. thats a recipe for success. The young guys want to prove themselves in the leauge and will play all out day in and day out, only if just playing to boost up there trade value and maybe get traded to a power house for the present. If this squad sticks together and plays together, and get to know each others style of play, I give them a championship in 10-15 years.
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