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04-15-2008, 02:54 PM
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Draft projections?
Okay so we are heading to the lottery, but barring a suprise top 3 pick, I say we end up at 5-7. If as early as 5 I think we have to get either Brook Lopez or Jerred Bayless.
Lopez, obviously because we could use an anchor in the low post. Emeka hasn't established himself since he's been here and we need someone who we can draw double teams in the low block. Of course, it's unfair to Emeka to say he's hasn't lived up to expectations due to the fact that he's never played with anyone good at the 5.
Bayless would be the best pick IMO. He would put pressure on Raymond right from the get go, and may even take the job from him. He can score, pass, do what you need, and pass in the halfcourt game, something Raymond struggles with. His defense isn't too bad, and he can actually take it and finish at the hole on a consistent basis.
If we can't get those two then here are the ones I think we should go after in order:
Gordon
Jordan
McGee
Westbrook
Randolph
Randolph would be higher on the list, but he's a guy that will need time. We need immediate impact, so that's why I put him at the bottom.
Obviously if we get top 3, Beasley, Rose, Mayo are the options.
1- Rose/Beasley - Either one, both are great players
2 - Rose/Beasley - Whichever doesn't get taken 1st
3 - Mayo
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04-15-2008, 03:04 PM
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Re: Draft projections?
You have Randolph at the bottom because he's going to need time, but you have Jordan and McGee above him? All 3 of those guys aren't going to be immediate impacts, they're projects.
I just want to see the Cats land high in the lottery so they can draft for some star-power. If they stay where they're projected, go for BPA. I could see them going big or getting someone to challenge Felton, like Bayless.
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04-15-2008, 08:25 PM
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Re: Draft projections?
I really expect that we'll trade the pick.Bob and MJ seem to lack to aptitude and the patience to build the organization through the draft.Given their history in the draft this is probably just as well.Big thing for this team is to pray that May and Morrison can contribute next year.If they could give us a bench we wouldn't need quite so much from the pick.
I'm really ticked off at Sam Vincent for setting back Felton's development this year.It's not like Raymond didn't have his own problems without some ******* in training coming out with that idiocy of McInnis starting at the point guard and sucking 35 minutes a game at the point.I've spent most of this year wondering if we needed to find another point guard,but when you actually leave him alone and let him do what he does best Raymond has looked pretty good late this season.
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04-18-2008, 08:51 AM
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Re: Draft projections?
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Originally Posted by WhoDaBest23
You have Randolph at the bottom because he's going to need time, but you have Jordan and McGee above him? All 3 of those guys aren't going to be immediate impacts, they're projects.
I just want to see the Cats land high in the lottery so they can draft for some star-power. If they stay where they're projected, go for BPA. I could see them going big or getting someone to challenge Felton, like Bayless.
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Randolph is a big 3 that can go down and possibly play the 4, if needed. He isn't going to help the organization as much as a Jordan or McGee would because those two are legit 7 footers who play the 5.
We already have Wallace and Morrison who can play the 3 and Richardson can move over if needed (a la a small lineup with Carroll in the game).
I don't question Randolph's abilities, it's more based on team needs when you aren't top 5. You noticed I didn't even mention Gallinari, and it's pretty much for the same exact reason.
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04-18-2008, 08:54 AM
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Re: Draft projections?
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Originally Posted by Diable
I really expect that we'll trade the pick.Bob and MJ seem to lack to aptitude and the patience to build the organization through the draft.Given their history in the draft this is probably just as well.Big thing for this team is to pray that May and Morrison can contribute next year.If they could give us a bench we wouldn't need quite so much from the pick.
I'm really ticked off at Sam Vincent for setting back Felton's development this year.It's not like Raymond didn't have his own problems without some ******* in training coming out with that idiocy of McInnis starting at the point guard and sucking 35 minutes a game at the point.I've spent most of this year wondering if we needed to find another point guard,but when you actually leave him alone and let him do what he does best Raymond has looked pretty good late this season.
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God I hope not, there's only so much you can do through FA. Look at the Knicks, spending big bucks and trading away picks aren't a formula for success.
The Richardson trade was a good one though. It brought a guy that's still young and can score in and also gave us a 2nd round pick in Davidson.
I think you have to use the pick this year though, too much stock out there to be trading away picks. Wouldn't mind seeing us draft an international guy with the 2nd rounder either. Even if he takes 3-4 years to develop, it'll be worth it.
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04-24-2008, 03:30 AM
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Re: Draft projections?
Bob and MJ are probably using the Clippers philosophy to build this team.
Its not that if they care about money, its the losing part that they seem to enjoy.
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04-24-2008, 11:49 AM
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Re: Draft projections?
I think Lopez would be a nice fit up front for your team. With Nazr, Okafor, and potentially May, you would have some decent depth at the 4/5 spots.
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04-25-2008, 12:13 PM
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Re: Draft projections?
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I think Lopez would be a nice fit up front for your team. With Nazr, Okafor, and potentially May, you would have some decent depth at the 4/5 spots.
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You but you better go ahead and figure at least one will miss the entire season, and another will have nagging injuries all season...Front court depth? Hah! 
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04-25-2008, 02:57 PM
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Re: Draft projections?
The last thing you guys need is another rookie. Trade the pick.
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04-25-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: Draft projections?
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The last thing you guys need is another rookie. Trade the pick.
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Lmao, you can't be serious Dre... Name a reliable young player that is a lock to be on this team in the next 5 years? Felton? Maybe.. May & Morrison? No.
Fact is Okafor might not be back, we have no post game really because May isn't guaranteed to do anything, Mohammed is a fill-in and Okafor looks like he's not trying out there without a competent center.
Sorry, we need a rookie, we need to develop, no need to bring in overpriced FA's or veterns who drag the team down even worse.
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04-27-2008, 10:09 AM
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Re: Draft projections?
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Originally Posted by Ninerballin
Lmao, you can't be serious Dre... Name a reliable young player that is a lock to be on this team in the next 5 years? Felton? Maybe.. May & Morrison? No.
Fact is Okafor might not be back, we have no post game really because May isn't guaranteed to do anything, Mohammed is a fill-in and Okafor looks like he's not trying out there without a competent center.
Sorry, we need a rookie, we need to develop, no need to bring in overpriced FA's or veterns who drag the team down even worse.
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How long are you guys going to be "rebuilding"? And there might not be a lock to be on the Bobcats in 5 years, but you're no longer in a position to be primarily worried with 5 years from now.
You have a pretty good roster. Your two best players, Wallace and Richardson are in their prime. Are you going to waste that period rebuilding, or try and deal the pick for depth to make a run in a weak East? I agree with Diable. I think you guys are two good players away from being a factor. If May and Morrison can come in and at least be a serviceable reserve core, you can trade the pick for two vets and be set.
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05-02-2008, 09:26 AM
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Re: Draft projections?
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Originally Posted by Dre™
How long are you guys going to be "rebuilding"? And there might not be a lock to be on the Bobcats in 5 years, but you're no longer in a position to be primarily worried with 5 years from now.
You have a pretty good roster. Your two best players, Wallace and Richardson are in their prime. Are you going to waste that period rebuilding, or try and deal the pick for depth to make a run in a weak East? I agree with Diable. I think you guys are two good players away from being a factor. If May and Morrison can come in and at least be a serviceable reserve core, you can trade the pick for two vets and be set.
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No, but we could bring in an impact rookie.. You have to have impact to the draft even when you're good. Look at San Antonio, even when they were good they drafted guys like Parker and Manu, who are cornerstones of their franchise.
But those two guys aren't successful without the staple, that is Tim Ducan. Tim Ducan makes everyone better, thus we need a quality big man to help out our wings & guards.
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05-03-2008, 12:27 PM
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Re: Draft projections?
I personally think that you guys have too many 2s and 3s. Richardson, Caroll, Morrison, Wallace.
I like Felton a lot. A Felton, Wallace, Morrison 1-2-3 is pretty awesome. If Okefor comes back then he is your 4. Maybe draft a DeAndre Jordan and groom him? Looks like in about 2-3 years that kid will be pretty damn good.
I think you guys need some trades to get some role players and a bench. I really love your team though. Personally, i feel like you guys have the starting pieces, and you should now let them grow together, and feel that ya'll should take Jordan with the intention of making him your 5th starter, and then start trading people like Richardson to start filling out a good bench, or maybe count on Caroll being the backup 2, Richardson the backup 3, and May the backup 4, and then work from there. A backup PG and starting Center (while Jordan takes the backup Center) for next year is what i'd do if i was the Bobcats Gm.
You guys have a really awesome team, imo. I'd probably do somethin' like this for your roster...
Felton | ?
Wallace | Carrol
Morrison | Richardson
Okefor | May
? | Jordan
Those 4 starters are an average of 25 years old... and if you Add Jordan at like 20 years old, ithink you guys have a great future because you have a young and talented team.
And just work through Free Agency nad/or trades for the rest. Personally, i'd probably trade Richardson for a backup PG and Center, and start building a strong bench. I'm like the rest of the people that i think you guys are probably 2 above average players from competing in the East for a 6-8 spot next year.
I don't know that much about your team, so i might be off with a bit, but i know you guys have a good future.
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