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05-06-2004, 03:23 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: My Expansion Draft Team Capsules
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I thought Santiago is a RFA. Also Smith had one of his best years, I see us leaving Skinner open before Smith.
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Skinner is expected to opt out of his contract...
http://rotoworld.com/content/playerp...rt=NBA&id=3265
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05-06-2004, 09:06 PM
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Re: My Expansion Draft Team Capsules
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Seattle (10 players under contract)
Protected: Rashard Lewis, Ray Allen, Luke Ridnour, Nick Collison, Vladmir Radmanovic, Antonio Daniels, Ronald Murray, Jerome James
Unprotected: Calvin Booth, Vitaly Potapenko
Assumptions: Jerome James exercises his player option
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A couple of points. You left off Reggie Evans, who I believe is under contract for next season.
Also, we definitely won't protect Jerome James. Management has been trying to dump him for a while now. If we wanted to protect someone else it would probably be Pot, as he can start at C and has an expiring contract. But, I think we will leave all three of the overpaid centers unprotected. It's unlikely that Charlotte would be interested in them anyway, unless we worked out a deal that included a draft pick(s).
The rest is good. 
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05-06-2004, 10:53 PM
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It has to be a soft cap because it clearly says the team MUST choose 14 players in the expansion draft. If that's the case then just for arguements sake say every team protected their 8 cheapest players and for the teams with less then 8 they make their highest paid player available.
If that were to happen it would be impossible for the Bobcats to stay under 30 million or whatever 66% of next years cap will be.
They Bobcats will only take on big contracts if they have 2 years or less left on them and the team gives us a 1st rounder.
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05-07-2004, 11:51 AM
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Re: My Expansion Draft Team Capsules
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Dallas (10 players under contract)
Protected: Josh Howard, Dirk Nowitzki, Eduardo Najera, Tony Delk, Antoine Walker, Antwan Jamison, Danny Fortson, Shawn Bradley
Unprotected: Tariq Abdul-Wahad, Michael Finley
Assumptions: Steve Nash declines his player option
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Am I wrong in thinking that if a team under the cap wants Finley that the Bobcats could pick him and then trade him for as little as a second round pick?
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05-07-2004, 11:55 AM
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Re: Re: My Expansion Draft Team Capsules
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Am I wrong in thinking that if a team under the cap wants Finley that the Bobcats could pick him and then trade him for as little as a second round pick?
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Also, this would be the same thing with Raef, Z, Camby, Shaq, Grant, Mashburn, G-Rob, Reef, Webber, and Stack. They could really do this, am I right?
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05-10-2004, 12:27 PM
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I'm getting the feeling David Wesley might be left unprotected by the Hornets. Would Charlotte have any interest?
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05-11-2004, 02:02 PM
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Re: My Expansion Draft Team Capsules
<b>RetroDreams - </b> this is a great list. Lots of good thought put into it.
However, here's my perspective on Portland's situation:
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Portland (11 players under contract)
Protected: Zach Randolph, Qyntel Woods, Dan Dickau, Travis Outlaw, Ruben Patterson, Darius Miles (RFA), Theo Ratliff, Derek Anderson
Unprotected: Dale Davis, Damon Stoudamire, Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Assumptions: Portland declines team option on Eddie Gill
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Both Gill and Cook have unguaranteed contracts for next year. So, my guess is that they'll choose two out of Dickau, Cook and Gill to protect, and that they'll expose the other one.
My guess is that they'll protect Randolph, Woods, Outlaw, Miles, Ratliff, Abdur-Rahim and the two PG's that they choose.
Leaving Davis, Anderson, Patterson, Stoudamire and the last cheap PG unprotected. I expect the Bobcats to take the PG if they take anyone.
I say protect SAR and Ratliff simply because their trade value is higher than that of any of the other big contract players on the team. Thus, IMO, the miniscule chance of Charlotte taking them is slightly higher than for the other players.
Oh, and if Stepania picks up his player option before the protection lists are due, he'd be exposed as well.
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05-11-2004, 02:06 PM
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Re: Re: Re: My Expansion Draft Team Capsules
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Also, this would be the same thing with Raef, Z, Camby, Shaq, Grant, Mashburn, G-Rob, Reef, Webber, and Stack. They could really do this, am I right?
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They could do it with any team that was $14.6 million under the cap at the time. That describes (in all probability) Utah, Denver and Atlanta.
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05-11-2004, 02:16 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: My Expansion Draft Team Capsules
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They could do it with any team that was $14.6 million under the cap at the time. That describes (in all probability) Utah, Denver and Atlanta.
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So, I'm right, right? If an All-Star was left open, they could take him and trade him no matter what his contract was... Is this right? Because if it isn't right, the Bobcats would have almost no one to pick because the other teams would leave their max guys unprotected.
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05-11-2004, 09:51 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My Expansion Draft Team Capsules
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So, I'm right, right? If an All-Star was left open, they could take him and trade him no matter what his contract was... Is this right? Because if it isn't right, the Bobcats would have almost no one to pick because the other teams would leave their max guys unprotected.
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I'm not aware of any rules that would prohibit this kind of scenario in general. However, remember:
1) Teams cannot re-acquire players that they lose in the expansion draft for one year. So, for example, Charlotte could not draft Finley and then trade him back to Dallas.
2) Normal trade restrictions apply. So, the team receiving the player must either have enough cap space to receive him or must send a player (or more) back to create enough cap space.
That being said, there are rules in the NBA by-laws that none of us are aware of. There could be one to cover such a contingency that we're ignorant of....
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05-15-2004, 01:24 PM
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Are the Nets going to protect Scallabrine? Will he be a Bobcat after last night's play? He's really likable, hard-working, basketball-loving and would be a good expansion draft-pick. Plus he can hit the three, even in tight spots for when Charlotte is trying to make the P in a few years and beyond.
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