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Old 11-17-2002, 10:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"Official" - Crawford has asked to be traded

Crawford said he recently requested a trade through his agent, to no avail.

"They won't trade me," Crawford said. "They said that I was an important part of the future here."

More likely, general manager Jerry Krause has yet to receive an offer he can't refuse at this point.

Crawford and Fizer have been the subjects of much speculation in the last year, and the odds are that one or both will be moved before the trade deadline.

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southt...pro/172sd3.htm

Seems more like a Bulls thread to me, but I'll leave a redirect MikeDC
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Old 11-17-2002, 11:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: "Official" - Crawford has asked to be traded

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Crawford said he recently requested a trade through his agent, to no avail.

"They won't trade me," Crawford said. "They said that I was an important part of the future here."

More likely, general manager Jerry Krause has yet to receive an offer he can't refuse at this point.

Crawford and Fizer have been the subjects of much speculation in the last year, and the odds are that one or both will be moved before the trade deadline.

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southt...pro/172sd3.htm

Seems more like a Bulls thread to me, but I'll leave a redirect MikeDC

Sorry I didn't mean for this to be an "official thread" sort of post, just wanted to let you all know that it can now be confirmed that JC has asked for a trade.
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Old 11-17-2002, 11:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 11-17-2002, 12:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Not only Crawford, a few other Bulls are probably asking to be traded. ERob, Fizer, and Crawford. Deep inside, them 3 want to be traded.
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Just wondering... Where does JC think he will actually get any minutes? Get real, JC. Nobody wants you and this attitude will only put you in a worse situation. I guess he doesn't want to improve his game....
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Old 11-17-2002, 01:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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He would find minutes with the Wizards next season more than likely because of his relationship with MJ.
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Old 11-17-2002, 01:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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what about larry hughes? would jamal be getting any more PT behind larry that he is already getting behind jay?
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Old 11-17-2002, 01:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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He would find minutes with the Wizards next season more than likely because of his relationship with MJ.
That would be a good choice. Washington needs a PG anyways, right now they got Hughes there who most definitely is not a PG.
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what about larry hughes? would jamal be getting any more PT behind larry that he is already getting behind jay?
I was speaking of next season. Not sure if Stack returns and if he doesn't, Hughes slides to off guard. Hughes has played well as has Lue though so I have no idea.
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i think the prime candidates for jamal's services are Denver, Cleveland?, miami, detroit?, lakers, memphis?, utah,toronto, new york, washington and minnesota

kareem rush for jamal?
chris jeffries for jamal?
james posey for jamal and future pick?
jamal and future pick for battier?
jamal for tyshaun prince and 2nd rounder?
jamal for deshawn stevenson?


the reason krause is so hesitant to trade jamal for anything less then all stars and maybe kneepad could back me up here, is becuase jamal already has 2+ years of expirience with the triangle, and he isnt about to just throw away that knowledge for someone who will take years to learn the system themselves
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I wish they would trade the guy. J-Dub is the future of this team not crappy JC.
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i think the prime candidates for jamal's services are Denver, Cleveland?, miami, detroit?, lakers, memphis?, utah,toronto, new york, washington and minnesota

kareem rush for jamal?
chris jeffries for jamal?
james posey for jamal and future pick?
jamal and future pick for battier?
jamal for tyshaun prince and 2nd rounder?
jamal for deshawn stevenson?


the reason krause is so hesitant to trade jamal for anything less then all stars and maybe kneepad could back me up here, is becuase jamal already has 2+ years of expirience with the triangle, and he isnt about to just throw away that knowledge for someone who will take years to learn the system themselves
Not bad deals for us!! I would take any of those deals. But, believe it or not, i think those players are out of our reach.
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Old 11-17-2002, 02:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Teams that need a pg "for the future" prospect:

Miami
Boston
Cleveland
Denver
Minnesota (Strickland short term solution)
Seattle (two old guards, one disgruntled)
Orlando
Wiz
Detroit (Billups isn't the answer)
Lakers
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Teams that may make changes based on inability
of existing PG to play within coach's system

Memphis
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Teams that have small SG's, that could be complemented
by a tall PG

Atlanta (JC may the 3 yr older rook look silly)
Philadelphia (Snow- history of nagging injuries)
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Team with mediocre established guards
and suspect prospects:

New York
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Team with old pg's and suspect prospects:

Utah
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Remember Craw's just 22, so picking him up is equivalent
to drafting a college senior


So that's about 15 teams IMO that Craw could find more minutes on
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Not bad deals for us!! I would take any of those deals. But, believe it or not, i think those players are out of our reach.

Kareem Rush hasn't done anything...pass

chris jeffries for jamal?...Toronto needs to add a pick,
but what will Jeffries contribute soon? Probably not much.
jeffries would just be more content on the bench

james posey for jamal and future pick?

Posey actually has done something in the league,
and you seem to think he's of less value than Jefffries or Rush
who haven't done anything.

Where do all these 3's play?
Bulls clearly need another big body before another 3.

jamal and future pick for battier?

Battier has peaked already.....pass..plus his minutes are down.
Battier simply isn't athletic enough

jamal for tyshaun prince and 2nd rounder?
Prince hasn't done anything

jamal for deshawn stevenson?

A medium size two doesn't do much for the Bulls
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If the Bulls are going to try to get a supersized 2 (TMac , Pierce size), than a player worth looking into who is buried behind Pierce is Kedric Brown.


If mason comes back and has defensive skills as well as combo guard ones, a Craw for Brown+ top 20 protected pick trade would work for me.

Though don't see Craw going anywhere esp. not until the deadline
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Kareem Rush hasn't done anything...pass
its not about what he has done, its about what he will do

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chris jeffries for jamal?...Toronto needs to add a pick,
but what will Jeffries contribute soon? Probably not much.
jeffries would just be more content on the bench
defensive minded swingman is what we need

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james posey for jamal and future pick?

Posey actually has done something in the league,
and you seem to think he's of less value than Jefffries or Rush
who haven't done anything.
posey for jamal and future pick is more then what we'd give up for jeffries or rush, so i dont see how that shows anyone thinking he's of less value then those two rookies

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Where do all these 3's play?
Bulls clearly need another big body before another 3.
the bulls lead the league in rebounding, we need perimiter D to stop the michael redds of the league from lighting us up

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jamal and future pick for battier?

Battier has peaked already.....pass..plus his minutes are down.
Battier simply isn't athletic enough
we dont need future stars or superfreaks, we needs solid contributors, you cant possibly ask for more then battier if all we'r giving up is jamal

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jamal for tyshaun prince and 2nd rounder?
Prince hasn't done anything
its not about what he has done, its about what he will do

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jamal for deshawn stevenson?

A medium size two doesn't do much for the Bulls
not really high on stevenson myself
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If the Bulls are going to try to get a supersized 2 (TMac , Pierce size), than a player worth looking into who is buried behind Pierce is Kedric Brown.
he hasnt done anything, why would you want him?

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If mason comes back and has defensive skills as well as combo guard ones, a Craw for Brown+ top 20 protected pick trade would work for me.

Though don't see Craw going anywhere esp. not until the deadline
agreed
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