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05-27-2007, 10:49 AM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
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Originally Posted by yodurk
I'm not sure what Splitter's draft stock is like these days, but he's a player I've liked for a long time. He's a skilled 7-footer with loads of international experience, and would be ready to play right away. Only drawback though is that he doesn't have much upside left, and he's basically a role player.
I'd be very surprised if the top 7 picks were all big men; surely at least one team will fall in love with Conley, Brewer, and/or Green. All 3 of these guys have alot of hype and attention being on Final Four teams, while Hawes has been under the radar. That might change in workouts, but the odds of one of those top 7 bigs, all of which are fantastic, are very good.
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I'm not sure, but I think some the lack of enthusiasm for Splitter is that he still has to be bought out for one season. But the price surely can't be too high for Generous Jerry.
From what I've seen he's a bit like Noah. Good handles, quick hands, runs the floor well, rebounds well. Reasonably nice low post game, although he's not big enough to be intimidating.
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05-27-2007, 12:47 PM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
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Trade down and draft Splitter.
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This is what I would do also. Philly could give us the 12th pick which we would use for Splitter. They would also need to give us their second first round pick and I would scoop up Sean Williams. Yes, marijuana smoking, bad dude Williams from BC. This guy is going to shoot up the charts (perhaps "shoot up" is not a good term to use with this guy, however). So, he smoked dope, so what? How many NBA players have not?
Of course, this is a pipe dream (pun intended). Pax would draft John Wayne Gacy before he would draft Williams. In that case, I would take Jason Smith or Glen Davis with the other Philly pick.
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05-27-2007, 12:50 PM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
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I'm not sure, but I think some the lack of enthusiasm for Splitter is that he still has to be bought out for one season. But the price surely can't be too high for Generous Jerry.
From what I've seen he's a bit like Noah. Good handles, quick hands, runs the floor well, rebounds well. Reasonably nice low post game, although he's not big enough to be intimidating.
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Maybe its just me and some preconceived bias, but my problem with Splitter is he's been on the Euro Radar for toooooo long.
I am wary of that "guy socked away in Europe who will some day come over and save the League" factor, in that it still conjures images of Dragan Tarlac in my mind.
I'm sure that is totally unfair to Splitter, but I can't free myself from that perception.
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05-27-2007, 01:34 PM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
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Maybe its just me and some preconceived bias, but my problem with Splitter is he's been on the Euro Radar for toooooo long.
I am wary of that "guy socked away in Europe who will some day come over and save the League" factor, in that it still conjures images of Dragan Tarlac in my mind.
I'm sure that is totally unfair to Splitter, but I can't free myself from that perception.
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Yeah, that Tarlac was really somethin'...'til he got here.
I went through the Dragan-burn with you. However, there's a bit of a difference. Tarlac was 27 when he came to the NBA. Splitter's 22, more like the age we got Kukoc at (Kukoc was on the Euro-radar for about as long as Splitter).
From what I've seen/read, Splitter is a reasonable choice if we trade down. I trust Paxson to do the right thing...besides, he's got a ton more info than any of us do. This said, if Jianlian, Hawes or Noah is there for us at #9 and we trade down, consider my eyebrows raised.
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05-27-2007, 05:44 PM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
There's alot of good ideas here.
We may be in the position of, if all the good bigs will go by our pick. Either all 7 will be selected or one stock will drop and we may not want them anyway.
Paxson drop the line, that we may not take a big with our pick in the interview last week.
I didn't mind that trade with Atlanta for Shelden.
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05-27-2007, 06:31 PM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
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Take Thaddeus Young. This guy becomes our 6th man, we trade Nocioni for a big, like Zach Randolph or whoever.
Then longterm, your probably looking at Ben Gordon-Thaddeus Young-Luol Deng as the back three of our lineup.
This guy is way too talented, and is going to be a star in the league. Its amazing how many people have gotten down on this guy, and are speaking of lesser talents like Corey Brewer or Julian Wright over him. Heck, the OP didn't even mention him.
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I'm a Thaddeus Young fan as well. Based on talent/potential alone, he should be a lottery pick. He could become what Darius Miles was supposed to have been.
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05-27-2007, 07:56 PM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
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I'm a Thaddeus Young fan as well. Based on talent/potential alone, he should be a lottery pick. He could become what Darius Miles was supposed to have been.
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They have some good and bad things to say about him at draftexpress
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6-8 guys that can shoot .419% from the college three are always going to be able to find a home in the N.B.A for that skill alone. His ball handling isn't flash though???
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05-28-2007, 12:35 AM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
I'd take Al Thornton.
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05-28-2007, 07:17 AM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
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I'd take Al Thornton.
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I think I've heard you tout him a couple of times and I haven't seen him much but he really seems like the sort of guy who could look very athletic in college but turn out to be a little bit overmatched in the pros. I think he's one case where the pre-draft measurements may say a lot. If he's really got the quickness to play the 3, he's probably worth a good pick, but he could slidea lot if he looks like your average undersized college 4.
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05-28-2007, 08:26 AM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
I'm iffy on Julian Wright. The kid stayed in college for 3 years and did not improve his jumpshot much. How does that happen?
Personally, I'd try to trade down to Philly for 12 and 21. At 12, grab a guy like Green. At 21, maybe a Big.
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05-28-2007, 09:28 AM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
Scola for #9 sounds like a great deal for San Antonio. How old is Scola? Does he even project as good as Oberto? I'd much rather go with Splitter as a worse case scenerio.
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05-28-2007, 10:05 AM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
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Originally Posted by johnston797
Scola for #9 sounds like a great deal for San Antonio. How old is Scola? Does he even project as good as Oberto? I'd much rather go with Splitter as a worse case scenerio.
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Exactly my feeling. From time to time somebody on this board starts blowing the horn for Scola. Number one, this guy is a bit long in the tooth; number two, he is ok but not worth a lottery pick. I like Splitter also, but I am not quite convinced that we couldn't do better with our pick. Trading down sounds about right if all of the bigs are gone.
Funny, but Julian Wright is growing on me. Too bad we need a big more than a guy as talented as him.
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05-28-2007, 06:31 PM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
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Funny, but Julian Wright is growing on me. Too bad we need a big more than a guy as talented as him.
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Paxson did state if he liked a guy he'd take him, and might not mean taking a big.
I believe what we need and what we can get from the draft and F.A is two entirely different things. Paxson might just grab BPA and then try and sort it all out afterwards.
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05-29-2007, 03:51 AM
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Re: Hypothetical Question, If all the bigs where gone before the 9th pick
Even if they all do get taken, please believe Paxson would have worked out a deal for another team to snatch him FOR us. He did it last year with Philly.
Thabo would of beeen a monster next to Deron Williams in Utah.
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