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**johnston797** · 02-02-2008, 09:38 AM

JR dictates the salary must remain below the Lux Tax. Pax decided to spend it on guys like Wallace (ideally not on the roster), Noch (ideally a backup), Smith (ideally a backup) and Griffith (ideally a good asst coach).

**Oldmangrouch** · 02-02-2008, 09:56 AM

Which raises an obvious question: does the owner do this because he doesn't care about winning, or because he doesn't trust his GM?

Either way, I feel sorry for Bull's fans. As a Blazer fan, I know what it feels like when it seems like EVERY choice the team makes turns out wrong! Portland only broke out of the rut when they brought in a whole new front office and coaching staff.

Jim Ian · 02-02-2008, 10:49 AM

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JR dictates the salary must remain below the Lux Tax. Pax decided to spend it on guys like Wallace (ideally not on the roster), Noch (ideally a backup), Smith (ideally a backup) and Griffith (ideally a good asst coach).

Absolutely brilliant post.

I mean, honestly, if you are 10 years old and your dad gives you $100 for a Christmas present and you blow it on a comic book thats only worth $45... you can't just go back and ask for another present because you blew yours.

If you blow your life savings buying swampland because it "seemed like a good idea" at the time... you can't go ask your bank for more money.

The bottom line is: Paxon has had PLENTY to work with in terms of a boatlaod of young talent, expiring contracts, and moments of cap space. And... this is what we have. There is NO ONE else to blame. This is his roster, the way he wanted it.

I just don't get the Pax-worshipers putting this all on Resindorf, who has a long history of paying for winners. This is not a winner. He's a buisinessman, and thank god. Do we really want to end up like the Knicks? I sure hope not. The way it stands, when Pax is let go (hopefully at the end of the year), the new GM can pull us out of this tailspin before the franchise is handcuffed for a decade...

**Da Grinch** · 02-02-2008, 04:18 PM

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In fact the bulls are actually crying a kind of poverty in regards to the luxury tax that they cannot afford to spend more because it would hurt them too much financially.

And who gets the blame ...the players , with this i disagree i blame management for creating a losing atmosphere in which the players dont believe they will get paid for their services , much like the clippers in years past in which their owner said much the same thing to very much the same effect. And how is that owner seen for his frugalness?

Why is the bulls owner any different ?

sometimes its just best to quote myself from a previous post years ago.

**ScottMay** · 02-02-2008, 07:32 PM

This is a pretty great thread, now that I think about it. But it's also a little sickening.

Because by now it's becoming very clear that Paxson has known since he took the job that he would never be able to consummate any deal or series of deals that would take the club over the luxury tax threshold.

In that context, yes, the Nocioni and Smith contracts are horribly, wretchedly bad. Mind-numbingly bad.

I'll give him a pass on Wallace, just because ownership probably would have forced his hand.

But yeah -- you can't play the "oh jeez what could Pax do?" card anymore. He's a big boy, he knows what the rules are, and he's gotta run his team like it's the Bucks or Jazz, not the Lakers or Knicks.

kukoc4ever · 02-02-2008, 07:54 PM

Paxson is horrible with the money he's been given to spend.

I'm disgusted that Uncle Jerry staunchly refuses to pay luxury tax, given their obscene, league-leading profits.

But, the Bulls do spend enough to be very competitive. Not many teams end up paying the tax. Still though, the players Paxson has paid big money to in his tenure have been disappointing. AD. TT. Wallace. Hinrich. The HAWK contact is a real head scratcher and points to the bizarre, NBA-incorrect "right way" thinking that rattles around in Paxson's muddled, losing brain.

I liked Paxson hitting that 3 against the Suns years back as much as the next Bulls fan, but I still fail to understand why people make excuse after excuse for his many failures. He hasn't brought the Bulls fans squat in his GM tenure. Yet some people still bend over backwards to make excuses for the guy.

Real, real puzzling.

At least its becoming clear that Paxson's way is a flawed way. Not a surprise to many.

GB · 02-02-2008, 09:17 PM

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Paxson is horrible with the money he's been given to spend.

First disappointing season.

liekomgj4ck · 02-02-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kukoc4ever

Paxson is horrible with the money he's been given to spend.

I'm disgusted that Uncle Jerry staunchly refuses to pay luxury tax, given their obscene, league-leading profits.

But, the Bulls do spend enough to be very competitive. Not many teams end up paying the tax. Still though, the players Paxson has paid big money to in his tenure have been disappointing. AD. TT. Wallace. Hinrich. The HAWK contact is a real head scratcher and points to the bizarre, NBA-incorrect "right way" thinking that rattles around in Paxson's muddled, losing brain.

I liked Paxson hitting that 3 against the Suns years back as much as the next Bulls fan, but I still fail to understand why people make excuse after excuse for his many failures. He hasn't brought the Bulls fans squat in his GM tenure. Yet some people still bend over backwards to make excuses for the guy.

Real, real puzzling.

At least its becoming clear that Paxson's way is a flawed way. Not a surprise to many.

He didn't refuse to pay the tax in the 90's did he?

Besides, why are you putting the whole team under the bus just because of one very disappointing season. There has been good this season but you just fail to see it.

**jnrjr79** · 02-02-2008, 09:51 PM

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First disappointing season.

The 1st was also disappointing relative to the expectations he set out, but I do agree with the general point that he hasn't given the team "nothing." He's taken the team from point A to point B. The problem so far is that from point B, this year we're headed back to point A rather than point C.

**jnrjr79** · 02-02-2008, 09:52 PM

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He didn't refuse to pay the tax in the 90's did he?

What tax?

liekomgj4ck · 02-02-2008, 09:56 PM

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What tax?

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