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Re: ESPN: Walsh knows how to woo, Bulls lose out again...

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How many games do you think this "team of crap" will win next year?
IT depends on what happens in the offseason and who will be on this team next season. If we have the same team then I dont see the Bulls winning more than 35 games, this is a very flawed team with no sense of direction from management and a with no philosophy yet. I would not be surprised at all if the Bulls are the worst team in the Central next season.
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Organizations win champio...oh I'm sorry, I forgot myself there. Channeling Krause probably won't go over too well here with some of his detractors huh? signed willieblack
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Re: ESPN: Walsh knows how to woo, Bulls lose out again...

the things this reminds me of that Katt williams joke about Michael jackson where he says if some1 says the same thing about you for 20 years in MJax case he is a child molester.

in the bulls case they are extreme risk averters...sometimes this approach works and there are no complaints when it does ...but when decisiveness is needed they aren't that place to look.

the article is right , the bulls negotiated with the guy they wanted to be coach ...the knicks recruited the guy they wanted and thats the end of it...the bulls have as a whole a basic tendency to do things from their saide of things with very little understanding for how their actions affect others ....Krause did it and was crucified for it and Paxson is doing it I see no reason why he deserves a lesser fate ...maybe this is JR's hand more than publicized , maybe not but the bulls basic handle on things haven't changed in 23 years from Krause telling MJ he couldn't play with a foot injury to Pax trying to deal for Kobe and Pau while offering identical deals to gordon and deng even though they are essentially as different as 2 players can be.

he(D'Antoni) is no Red Auerbach , he is a 1 trick pony, but he does his one trick better than any1 in basketball. the bulls supposedly have all the jib guys who sweat and bleed the right way of playing and were drafted because they were hardworking self starting players, where is the big risk in getting a coach who is an offensive dynamo ?


he wont win a title like that but he can build a very strong also ran ...and in the east he can probably make a finals team in a soft year.

is kirk and deng going to all of a sudden forget how to play defense because of the 7 second offense ....? somehow i doubt it.

i always thought and still do think the bulls are tailor made for MD far more than the knicks , but they fail to learn from their mistakes , so the same mistakes keep happening...the knicks whom every1 here loathes have something the bulls management dont , they get what they want ...sometimes what they want defies logic and reason but they still get it this time because they understand sometimes you have to think from a perspective that isn't your own...to get what you want.
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Re: ESPN: Walsh knows how to woo, Bulls lose out again...

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the things this reminds me of that Katt williams joke about Michael jackson where he says if some1 says the same thing about you for 20 years in MJax case he is a child molester.

in the bulls case they are extreme risk averters...sometimes this approach works and there are no complaints when it does ...but when decisiveness is needed they aren't that place to look.

the article is right , the bulls negotiated with the guy they wanted to be coach ...the knicks recruited the guy they wanted and thats the end of it...the bulls have as a whole a basic tendency to do things from their saide of things with very little understanding for how their actions affect others ....Krause did it and was crucified for it and Paxson is doing it I see no reason why he deserves a lesser fate ...maybe this is JR's hand more than publicized , maybe not but the bulls basic handle on things haven't changed in 23 years from Krause telling MJ he couldn't play with a foot injury to Pax trying to deal for Kobe and Pau while offering identical deals to gordon and deng even though they are essentially as different as 2 players can be.

he(D'Antoni) is no Red Auerbach , he is a 1 trick pony, but he does his one trick better than any1 in basketball. the bulls supposedly have all the jib guys who sweat and bleed the right way of playing and were drafted because they were hardworking self starting players, where is the big risk in getting a coach who is an offensive dynamo ?


he wont win a title like that but he can build a very strong also ran ...and in the east he can probably make a finals team in a soft year.

is kirk and deng going to all of a sudden forget how to play defense because of the 7 second offense ....? somehow i doubt it.

i always thought and still do think the bulls are tailor made for MD far more than the knicks , but they fail to learn from their mistakes , so the same mistakes keep happening...the knicks whom every1 here loathes have something the bulls management dont , they get what they want ...sometimes what they want defies logic and reason but they still get it this time because they understand sometimes you have to think from a perspective that isn't your own...to get what you want.
Well said.

Defintely this team needs a shake up on offense, not defense.

One thingI haven't read from anyone commenting on this that it strikes me a bit strange that for weeks, at least a couple weeks, that MD wanted to be the Bulls Coach and that it was as good as a done deal. Also, that New York want Mark Jackson. Then out of nowhere comes NY Knicks and all of sudden he's there man.

It kind of reminds me of the movie where the most popular guy in school goes after the science geeks girlfriend just so that he can take her away. Considering most people think the Bulls got the better of the Curry trade that basically help losing Isiah his job, it might be some payback to say, hey, "The Bulls really wanted this guy but we were able to come and scoop him away".

Anyway, I think when you can hire Brown and then dump him after a year and pay him millions and assemble a roster of junk for 10's and 100's of millions of course you get what you want. What is risk adverse for MD. He can totally suck it up in NY, take some major heat, then walk away a rich, rich man. Then go coach somewhere else for millions and blame it on a poor roster like Brown did.

Does anybody know anybody so rich they throw away bathroom towels after one use? The super rich do it. Maybe The Bulls have the cash to run that way, but mostly it's teams in NYC that do it from the Rangers to the Yankees, and they haven't been raking in the titles recently for all that cash spent.

One thing is for sure, this is a team with a track record of NOT getting difference makers through FA. The last one they got was name Rodman, and that was awhile ago.

I have to agree that unless this team lucks into another Jordan, don't count on much. Even with Krause gone, I still think there's a stigma with this team where players don't really want to play here and teams don't necessarily want to deal with them. In both cases, Pau Gasol and Garnett were both traded for scraps but not to the Bulls.
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