yodurk

I certainly agree that he still has improving to do on the 15-footer, but fact of the matter is that I don't recall a SINGLE instance from his rookie year where he hit a 15-footer. Not a single one. (This is from my memory, I'm sure he hit it a few times...).

His second year, I watched only about 25-30 Bulls games. But in all the games where he actually played minutes, I'd see him confidently take the shot with little hesitation (which DOES count) and alot of the time he made it. I also like the prospects of that shot improving, because he has a very soft touch and decent enough form/technique.

Look, not many big men can hit literally 50% of their 15-footers. What's important is that he shows defenses that he is not only confident in taking the shot, but also capable of hitting it. He's already capable, it's just a matter of practice and repetition to where it's second nature. This isn't a kid like Tyson Chandler where his technique is so bad that he'll never improve the shot.

Good Hope

All of this discussion reminds me that it would indeed be nice if Tyrus did go to the summer leagues again. It would be nice to see what has been happening in his game as a result of his work with David Thorpe.

He was actually pretty good last year in summer league. I'd like to see him improve upon that, if he could. Especially if Vinny DN is going to coach over the summer.

Regarding the original thread proposal, I don't see that Memphis would like someone like Tyrus coming back for Conley. Yea, they have more than enough point guards, but they also more than enough players like Tyrus. They have bigger needs than him.

But if we do go Beasley for some reason, I can see that Tyrus should go, and Conley is an option for us to meet our pg need if we're not willing to give it a go with Kirk. I just don't think they can be swapped, at least from Memphis' point of view.

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thebizkit69u

Common dont give me that, you watch the same games we all do. He bites on nearly every Shot Fake thats not great Basketball IQ, he gets beaten off the drible by faster 3's and cant post up bigger 4. He strugles comming off screens, he gives up the inside position way too much and he doesnt run the court!


LOL, if Andrew Bynum can spend time in the D League why cant Thomas?

liekomgj4ck

not really. every time he came into a game great things happened for the Bulls.

Anyone other than you can attest to that.

thebizkit69u

Hes getting to a point where hes capable of hitting the open shot but will he be able to get to a point where he can do stuff offensively when guarded? I dont know and thats something I would like to see him improve on in the D League, hes not going to get his shot off in the NBA, he has no go to moves and it just seems like its going to take Thomas 2-3 more years for him to catch up to the rest of the league on offense. I dont know why some people on here get their panties in a bunch when I suggest Thomas try out the D League for a while, this kid is a project, hes athleate first basketball player second, so why not make an effort to develop this kid by giving him 30+ minutes every night in the D league?

liekomgj4ck

Tyrus can't go to the D-league, there isn't any free money there

BULLHITTER

it's a stupid idea, frankly; thomas was the starting 4 last season, until skiles needed a scapegoat when wallace, pj, kirk, and luol sucked arse starting out the season. THIS season, he's at the least going to compete with gooden, another inconsistent player for the starting position. further, the Dleague competition will do nothing to improve tyrus' game; again if you think so, fine; i don't. the fact that andrew bynum went there (if in fact he did) means nothing to me. bynum was less ready for pro ball than the average teen. thomas had some college experience and save an a-hole for a coach who's priority was to win first, develop second, third and fourth AND who's idea of a player "getting it" was to, as you state "run the court" and if you don't you sit (good luck reaching players with that ideaology) i'd submit thomas would've progressed much faster than he has.

sorry, this is your opinion. first, if he did any struggling off screens, it was that he was playing out of position at the 3; something that while i believe he has the potential to do, skiboy's coaching had NO definitive role for thomas; other than "run tyrus, run!!" their idea of giving him minutes was throwing him out there, and seeing how long he could play without picking up 2 fouls. second, giving up inside position is a matter of strength not ability; you might not agree with this, but the Dleague won't help it by any means. third, who was going to get the ball to him when he was doing all this "running the court?" kirk? ben? all any player has to do is run the court a few times and not see a guard looking ahead; he won't be running nearly as much if he knows there's virtually no chance he'll get the rock.

yodurk

That's really part of my point though. Step 1 is getting to hit the shot when unguarded. Then opponents are forced to respect the shot, and that opens things up in other areas (e.g. freeing up the lane, or allowing a dribble-drive of some kind).

That's really why I don't mind some growing pains with hitting the 15-footer. In the long term, the benefit of having opponents respect that shot can be substantial.

thebizkit69u

I'm not even going to touch your non sensical rantings about blaming Skiles for Thomas suckage.


Sf's beat him off the dribble and just blow by him, PF's just out muscle him and have their way with him in the Post, Thomas cant score from past 15 feet and has no post offense so please tell me where Thomas can play?

thebizkit69u

I see your point but I'm someone who thinks the NBA isnt the place to develop your jumpshot from nothing, especially during real NBA games. I hope Thomas is spending all summer working on his game I really do but I also dont see how getting more playing time in the DLeague can hurt him.

Dornado

Which SF's were blowing by Thomas?

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BULLHITTER

maybe he's thinking isaiah, or etan, or rufus......point being, i'm not sure what he's looking at. the entire team defense for the bulls stunk last year, but thomas is the guy who's "the worst", and needs to get some experience in the Dleague. keep waiting for that why don't you....

they fired his limited coaching, unvisionary azz, didn't they? let's see how long milwaukee lets him f-around their prize project Yi......nuff said.

Cinco de Mayo

Precisely why Memphis wouldn't accept that.