View Poll Results: So how about that Bulls draft?
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07-01-2008, 12:38 PM
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#91 (permalink)
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¡Ya basta!
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
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Originally Posted by liekomgj4ck
Sorry to break it to you, but he still sucks. I'd still take Tyrus at PF over him, Tyrus is going to have a better averages than that, and actually play defense on the other side.
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If Tyrus ever averages over 20 ppg and 5 assists, I'll be shocked... happy as can be... but shocked.
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07-01-2008, 12:44 PM
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#92 (permalink)
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Just Say HELL NO To Kobe
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
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Originally Posted by Dornado
We drafted Toni Kukoc in the 2nd round, that worked.
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And, again, a SF. He was also fairly old by the time he got over here (by rookie standards in the NBA, 25 years old). As I already said, when referring to "bigs", I refer to guys that play the 4 or 5, not just someone tall. The 29th overall pick, which would be the 1st round in today's NBA as well I might add.
I'm not saying there aren't ANY. I'm just saying there aren't many, and it's extremely bad value to trade 3 2nd rounders, 2 of which are probably early 2nds, for a dude we won't even see for at least 2 years. It's just stupid, given how bad our C position is with Noah. If we run an uptempo scheme, Gray is useless. Gooden could play C, but he's really more of a PF and gone after this year. So why not grab someone that can actually contribute and get adjusted to the only basketball that counts, the NBA, rather than waste away playing Euro ball. It's just dumb. Period.
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07-01-2008, 12:50 PM
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#93 (permalink)
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Just Say HELL NO To Kobe
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
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Originally Posted by Dornado
If Tyrus ever averages over 20 ppg and 5 assists, I'll be shocked... happy as can be... but shocked.
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I can honestly see Tyrus being a bit like Horace Grant, who was the most underappreciated Bull in my lifetime. I'm still mad they let him walk. Tyrus is more of a shot blocker, and Horace was more of a scorer and rebounder, but I could see Tyrus developing a nice jumper like Horace had, and just being that type of player, more or less.
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07-01-2008, 12:53 PM
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#94 (permalink)
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
quite like that 99% statement......
how about this.....you win; deandre can't miss, and asik will never amount to anything.....btw, send me some lottery numbers so i'll have too much money to waste my time posting with opinioinada like "baby"bullz. 
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07-01-2008, 01:04 PM
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#95 (permalink)
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Yes we can.
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
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Originally Posted by DaBabyBullz
And, again, a SF. He was also fairly old by the time he got over here (by rookie standards in the NBA, 25 years old). As I already said, when referring to "bigs", I refer to guys that play the 4 or 5, not just someone tall. The 29th overall pick, which would be the 1st round in today's NBA as well I might add.
I'm not saying there aren't ANY. I'm just saying there aren't many, and it's extremely bad value to trade 3 2nd rounders, 2 of which are probably early 2nds, for a dude we won't even see for at least 2 years. It's just stupid, given how bad our C position is with Noah. If we run an uptempo scheme, Gray is useless. Gooden could play C, but he's really more of a PF and gone after this year. So why not grab someone that can actually contribute and get adjusted to the only basketball that counts, the NBA, rather than waste away playing Euro ball. It's just dumb. Period.
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You argument here is bad because you act like a 2nd round draft pick is a valuable commodity. People find diamonds in the rough here and there, but mostly 2nd rounders won't pan out. 2nd round picks are routinely tossed around like baseball cards. There's no sense getting worked up here. The Bulls roster is already overcrowded, so parting ways with picks that would be used to select players who likely would never make the squad is a smart move when it nets you a guy who is a lottery-level talent, even if you have to wait a few yeears.
You can shout louder and louder all you want about it, but it doesn't make it true.
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07-01-2008, 01:14 PM
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#96 (permalink)
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lick my jock
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
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If Tyrus ever averages over 20 ppg and 5 assists, I'll be shocked... happy as can be... but shocked.
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It's not out of reach for him, especially being a #4pick
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07-01-2008, 01:21 PM
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
So, to get back to the OP's question, I think the real answer is that NO ONE IS HAPPY unless we can argue to the death about inconsequential things.
And we thought it was K4E!
Just a thought -- there's no reason to make ourselves miserable about how the bulls went about acquiring a 2nd round pick.
There's enough going on in the world that we SHOULD get worked up over that can fill anyone's quota of necessary misery.
Carry on.
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There are better things to hope in than the Bulls, but its fun to try, anyway.
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07-01-2008, 01:23 PM
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#98 (permalink)
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Yes we can.
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
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Originally Posted by Good Hope
So, to get back to the OP's question, I think the real answer is that NO ONE IS HAPPY unless we can argue to the death about inconsequential things.
And we thought it was K4E!
Just a thought -- there's no reason to make ourselves miserable about how the bulls went about acquiring a 2nd round pick.
There's enough going on in the world that we SHOULD get worked up over that can fill anyone's quota of necessary misery.
Carry on.
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Excellent post. I award you 100 sanity points. Carry on.
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07-01-2008, 02:10 PM
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
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Originally Posted by DaBabyBullz
And, again, a SF. He was also fairly old by the time he got over here (by rookie standards in the NBA, 25 years old). As I already said, when referring to "bigs", I refer to guys that play the 4 or 5, not just someone tall. The 29th overall pick, which would be the 1st round in today's NBA as well I might add.
I'm not saying there aren't ANY. I'm just saying there aren't many, and it's extremely bad value to trade 3 2nd rounders, 2 of which are probably early 2nds, for a dude we won't even see for at least 2 years. It's just stupid, given how bad our C position is with Noah. If we run an uptempo scheme, Gray is useless. Gooden could play C, but he's really more of a PF and gone after this year. So why not grab someone that can actually contribute and get adjusted to the only basketball that counts, the NBA, rather than waste away playing Euro ball. It's just dumb. Period.
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My dear friend you are wasting your time...despite your solid arguments
you can not convinced someone who don’t want to hear your logic.
Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls ?
When Bulls vaulted from the ninth spot to win the NBA Draft Lottery in Secaucus, N.J. on Tuesday May 20, this is what made me happy...not a draft day.
When I look at the past draft, other than selecting an obvious best player, Pax did nothing to improve team’s roster, despite the fact that he got a few good choices. For example he could easily trade Kirk and second round picks (if necessary even next year 1st round) for Joe Alexander or Lopez or Gallinari or even try go after Beasley. Instead he acted as a “cool guy” who knows something that no one does , and selected complete withdrawal from any action.
IMO, Pax definitely not a top shelf GM, he is what JR wants him to be...an executive who is in charge for a team’s salary cap space.
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07-01-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
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Excellent post. I award you 100 sanity points. Carry on.
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According with that logic, Chicago Bulls forum will be empty soon.
Please give me 100 points too and I will agree with everything you want to hear, including that Britney Spears lost her virginity on 1999 NBA Draft day 
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07-01-2008, 03:30 PM
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#101 (permalink)
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Re: Are you happy with how the draft panned out for the Bulls?
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According with that logic, Chicago Bulls forum will be empty soon.
Please give me 100 points too and I will agree with everything you want to hear, including that Britney Spears lost her virginity on 1999 NBA Draft day 
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That's right, because we at this forum know already that pointless arguing over topics that at the end of the day have little to no relevance is a top-notch way of bringing in new voices and building up membership.
Look, you and DaBaby might be right. Maybe it was a wasted pick. But that's not logic. That's opinion. Based on a lot of premises you and DaBaby are willing to assume about what was or wasn't possible.
Just let it go. The Internet and these boards have an excellent memory, and if this guy disappears, as VK did before him, then you'll have been right, and you can bring it up, and we'll say, yep, you were right. And if he turns out to be something of value to come on board, just as Camby's contract is ending and Lebron/Wade/Bosh is coming on board, then come on down and confess your undying love for Pax and Reinsdorf. 
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