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Old 06-29-2008, 03:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

Sign me up... like someone mentioned earlier... frees up the log jam at guard a bit... and frees up a ton of cap money for the 2010 free agent extravaganza...
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:38 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

Horrible trade imo, get someone we can use (A PF Dengit!). I thought Kirk was highly favored around the league? & all we could probably net us is Camby? No offense but he's 34 years old and although he would free up roster space I just hate these giveaway trades without getting much if anything in return.
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:47 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

Camby is a DPOY contender year after year. He's a lot more than nothing. I think it's a solid trade. Both teams seem to like it.
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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

I would rather watch Noah and Tyrus get more minutes and develop. Camby is 35 and he really won't be much of an upgrade. I would like to see us go for Carmelo tho.
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:52 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

Why are we not going for Melo? He is NOT AVAILABLE. Its as simple as that.
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

Trading for Camby would give us what Ben Wallace was suppose to do. Camby could mentor both Tyrus and Noah for defense. For example teach Tyrus when to go up for a block instead of going up each time and drawing a foul most of the time.
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Trading for Camby would give us what Ben Wallace was suppose to do. Camby could mentor both Tyrus and Noah for defense. For example teach Tyrus when to go up for a block instead of going up each time and drawing a foul most of the time.

Who will mentor Rose when Hinrich is gone? Are we planning on starting Rose from the start of the season, if we are then I can see the reason why having Camby as a mentor might work. And yea, **** wallace.

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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

That's a horrible trade. If Camby was in his 20s, then sure it'd be decent. We don't need a short term rental, and give up a quality starter for it. That's just a salary dump, and you get nowhere by giving talent away just to save money on the cap. Look at Tyson Chandler. Salary dump, and now blowing up in NO. Hinrich will be the same damn thing. You get him with some real players that can actually score by creating their own shot, and he'll blow up too. The Bulls really do need new management/ownership if this happens.
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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

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Look at Tyson Chandler. Salary dump, and now blowing up in NO. Hinrich will be the same damn thing. You get him with some real players that can actually score by creating their own shot, and he'll blow up too. The Bulls really do need new management/ownership if this happens.
so in essence, you're advocating getting rid of the bulls best players, keep the mediocre player and get some BETTER best players?

i'll be waiting to hear paxson's move in that direction......
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Old 06-29-2008, 05:50 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Who will mentor Rose when Hinrich is gone? Are we planning on starting Rose from the start of the season, if we are then I can see the reason why having Camby as a mentor might work. And yea, **** wallace.
I didn't know someone is already a mentor at 26 years old. Rose can always be mentored by Larry Hughes
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:33 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

I've been hollering for Camby for ages

He's perfect for this team over the next 2 years as Noah and Tyrus develop behind Camby and Gooden that gives us defense and scoring upfront

If it happens ( as I think it should - I was previously just looking at a Gooden swap ) then look for Anthony Carter to be included in a S and T that gives us a tough hard nosed vet back up point guard

I would suggest we include Cedric Simmons and receive a future 1st round pick from Denver ( lottery protected )

Larry Hughes get packaged to New York with Charlie Villanueva

Andres Nocioni and David Lee goes to Milwaukee

Mardy Collins , Malik Rose , Desmond Mason ( Rose and Mason are expiring contracts ) and Jerome James ( the latter who we buy out - he expires next year anyway ) and a future first round pick from Milwaukee goes to Chicago

We keep Ben Gordon in this sceanrio

We also look to sign Michael Finley to a 2 year LLE deal



Camby
Gooden
Deng
Finley
Rose

6th : Gordon

bench

Noah
Thomas
Sefolosha
Mason
Carter

Gray
Rose
Curry
Collins



Camby, Gooden, Finley, M Rose , Mason and A. Carter all expire in 2 years which would leave the core of



Noah
Thomas
Deng
Sefolosha
Rose

Gordon ??? QO or will he go



PLus we would have two mid to late first round picks from Denver and Milwaukee in this scenario

Nice mix of vets to help now while the core develops plus big cap space in 2010
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it's like the ben wallace trade all over again
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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

Camby is on the wrong side of 30, not a good trade. What about Nene and a 1st round pick? I know he's injury prone, but when healthy he can play.
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Re: Hinrich going to Denver for Camby?

If this team is serious about changing things up then there is no reason why Noah and Tyrus should not be starting this year. I wouldn't mind having Camby on the team, but if it is at the expense of benching our young bigs for another year for a player who will most likely be out of the league in a few years I'd rather not.

I think our starting lineup for the future is Rose, Thabo, Deng, Tyrus, and Noah. If it's the future let's not beat around the bush, let's make it the present.

I also think a deal like this is probably the best we are going to get as the only other real option would be the package Hinrich with Gordon S&T for a big time shooting guard but I don't see why a team that already has a good SG would be interested in this. Getting Camby to play a reserve role wouldn't be a bad thing, but only as a reserve. Couple his expiring contract in '10 with Hughes' and we either have two amazing trading chips at the deadline or a ton of cap space that summer. So Pax, if you feel like you can use this to actually do something productive (unlike the Tyson/Wallace fiasco) go ahead because the outcome can be great. But if you're just going to piss it away like last time why bother?
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