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07-08-2008, 04:31 PM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
There was a lot of loose lipped gum flappin' on these boards yesterday, and it's looking pretty foolish right about now.
Beasley today: "I have to work on all aspects of my game."
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07-08-2008, 04:47 PM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
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It's an election year, so attacking the source instead of the argument seems appropriate. Look around for additinoal writeups of the game if you need more proof.
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I watched the game.
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07-08-2008, 04:50 PM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
Here is a good "source" from yesterday.
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/
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Rose then dazzled with a transition layup that had an Eastern Conference scout in awe. "Speed. Quickness. Strength. Ambidexterity. All in one three-second burst." The game belonged the Beasley, the moments to Rose.
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07-08-2008, 04:51 PM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
Beasley needs to take the Beast drill more seriously. His moves are all good, but he has a finishing problem right now. Like on that Tyrus block yesterday, Beasley said he was thinking about not jumping on the shot, and decided to jump at the last minute. That crap isn't going to cut it in the NBA. The guy needs to learn how to dunk over people.
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07-08-2008, 07:58 PM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
The way I see of Michael Beasley is this. A combination of Derrick Coleman/Anthony Mason/Zach Randolph. I'd still take Rose. The Bulls need a leader, a guard who actually attacks the basket frequently(the other will be Larry Hughes when he gets acclimated with this team during training camp), and a player that Chicago Bulls fans can be proud to watch each night he laces up his sneakers.
Not only that but now Duhon is gone, hopefully Paxson trades Hinrich for Camby, and sign-and-trade Gordon. The Bulls definetly need a PG and we got our PG for the next 10-15 years. Rose is basically our LeBron James in terms of team value.
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07-08-2008, 09:31 PM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
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Heh, kinda makes us all look a little foolish. I'm not knocking anybody in any way, heck I have knee jerk reactions like everyone else, but this serves as a nice timely reminder the true nature of judging rookies...in summer league, no less.
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Like I said yesterday to Vegas post...YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.
Come on guys...it's summer league...niether day makes a damn bit of difference. Let's talk about it at the all-star break.
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07-09-2008, 06:34 AM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
Is this thread for real? It seems like a clever attempt to parody a typical reactionary fan after one summer league game.
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07-09-2008, 07:45 AM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
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Is this thread for real?
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Sadly I think so. Anyone that knows anything about basketball realizes that you need to give a min of 2 years before completely labeling someone a bust.
This thread could possibly exist in like three years, but not today...
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07-09-2008, 09:51 AM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
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Is this thread for real? It seems like a clever attempt to parody a typical reactionary fan after one summer league game.
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Yip, it's for real. But Summer League play isn't my impetus.
You simply don't pass up on the best player in the draft to grab a PG who doesn't do as many things, or as many things as well, as any top 5 PG in the league (none of whom were drafted #1). Rose is very good, but he's not Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Gilbert Arenas or Jason Kidd. He's Steve Francis. You don't pass up on Beasley to use your #1 pick to draft Steve Francis -- especially when you've fielded one of the worst frontcourts in the league over the last half decade.
FYI, Rose went 2-9 with 9 points and didn't score in the first half yesterday. He's only attempted one three in two games. Summer League doesn't really matter, but I am paying attention to where he's taking his shots. Again, I'm not sure if it's wise to spend a #1 pick on a PG who can't hit threes or, worse, one who simply doesn't take them.
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07-09-2008, 09:58 AM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
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Yip, it's for real. But Summer League play isn't my impetus.
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Yet you keep talking about his Summer League play....
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07-09-2008, 10:00 AM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
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He's only attempted one three in two games. Summer League doesn't really matter, but I am paying attention to where he's taking his shots. Again, I'm not sure if it's wise to spend a #1 pick on a PG who can't hit threes or, worse, one who simply doesn't take them.
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True, he's not shooting jumpers all day. It's not the playground.
It's obvious to anyone watching these games that he's carrying out what the Bulls are asking. Working on distribute-first while he's out there.
Learning to be a PG in the league is a whole lot harder than SG.... they're using summer league to get the jump on that process.
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07-09-2008, 10:02 AM
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Watch Rose's play in the Final Four. He's Steve Francis. I was at the Final Four and shared this observation with a few NCAA folks.
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07-09-2008, 10:09 AM
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Re: Pax made a huge mistake
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Watch Rose's play in the Final Four. He's Steve Francis. I was at the Final Four and shared this observation with a few NCAA folks.
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You make that sound like a bad thing. Steve Francis is a very good point guard, or he was for his first 5 plus years. The thing is,that he's a bit of an a**hole, and hard to coach. Rose doesn't seem to have that now does he.
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07-09-2008, 10:10 AM
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