as a result, we have to swing for the fences.......it's at least one of the big 4 or bust.......
Not really, Derrick Rose is good enough that he should get to level where he can be the best player on a championship team. Even if the NY teams overpay for Boozer, Lee, Gay and/or others, trading for Jefferson and Iguodala(or any combination of a good forward and guard) is probably enough to win a title two or three years down the road(once Rose hits his prime). Chicago's not in the kind of all-or-nothing situation that the Knicks and Nets find themselves in right now.
I'm starting to come down to the conclusion that it will be Amare in 2010, with the talks of a hard cap I cant see the others moving away from their cushy huge deals if they stay home. Amare wants out of Phoenix. If we lose out on Joe Johnson, the FA Market will look like this
1. Amare
2. Gay
3. Boozer
4. Lee
If we come out with Johnson IMO thats a huge win, hes a great player who can really do wonders for the Bulls, that being said if we dont get a big man like Bosh we are definitely going to need to start drafting better or we will have 0 chance of winning a title.
On this Allen for Hinrich rumor, I just saw on hoopshype that the Celtics are hoping to land Kevin Martin for Ray Allen. While I can't blame Ainge for trying to get good value for Ray Allen, this is LOL stupid if the Kings actually accept that. Since when does any team salary dump a still-relatively-young dynamic 25 ppg scorer, regardless of how injured he's been? If Kings trade Kevin Martin to the Celtics, they had better get either 3+ future 1st rounders (oh wait, they already gave those up in the KG trade!) or give up one of their valuable young players, e.g., Kendrick Perkins (which ain't happening).
On this Allen for Hinrich rumor, I just saw on hoopshype that the Celtics are hoping to land Kevin Martin for Ray Allen. While I can't blame Ainge for trying to get good value for Ray Allen, this is LOL stupid if the Kings actually accept that. Since when does any team salary dump a still-relatively-young dynamic 25 ppg scorer, regardless of how injured he's been? If Kings trade Kevin Martin to the Celtics, they had better get either 3+ future 1st rounders (oh wait, they already gave those up in the KG trade!) or give up one of their valuable young players, e.g., Kendrick Perkins (which ain't happening).
It won't be a straight up Martin for Allen swap, if it happens. My best guess would be that Boston would have to eat Nocioni's contract for Sacramento(making them players in free agency) and find a third team to get them a big man who can protect the rim. Either Sam Dalembert or a package of Tyrus Thomas+Hinrich or Salmons in exchange for Kenny Thomas' expiring would work(whichever team asks for less in return). I'd also like Boston to pick up Sergio Rodriquez(who's not playing major minutes) to finally give us a backup ball-handler, but he's obviously not a deal-breaker.
Martin and Nocioni(plus maybe Sergio) to Boston, Ray Allen and either Dalembert or Tyrus Thomas+Guard X to Sacramento, and Kenny Thomas' expiring plus maybe a minor asset to Third Team Y makes sense for all three teams involved and works financially, with additional minor players added in as needed to balance roster numbers.
Wow, hit a nerve there, huh? Being physical is one thing but intentionally launching someone into the stands should have gotten him suspended for the playoffs. Everyone knows how much of a turd Rondo is as this wasn't the only incident of him acting like a turd. But since it concerns you soooo much, I have dealt with it. I just thought it might be something that still resonated in Hinrich, and will probably need to be addressed should the trade go down.
Wow, hit a nerve there, huh? Being physical is one thing but intentionally launching someone into the stands should have gotten him suspended for the playoffs. Everyone knows how much of a turd Rondo is as this wasn't the only incident of him acting like a turd. But since it concerns you soooo much, I have dealt with it. I just thought it might be something that still resonated in Hinrich, and will probably need to be addressed should the trade go down.
Not particularly. I'm not worked up over how Rondo's perceived, I just think it's interesting that some Chicago fans treat him as a villain when the Bulls have fielded some of the more physical/dirty teams of the past two decades. I'd trust that Hinrich is enough of a professional to not take a rough playoff series personally.
Not particularly. I'm not worked up over how Rondo's perceived, I just think it's interesting that some Chicago fans treat him as a villain when the Bulls have fielded some of the more physical/dirty teams of the past two decades. I'd trust that Hinrich is enough of a professional to not take a rough playoff series personally.
"physical/dirty" huh?
Physical I'll grant you.... dirty? really?
I hope you're talking about Dennis Rodman and his antics (which were border-line funny at a certain point, but I can see where an opponent would label him dirty.. I sure did when he was on the Bad Boy Pistons)... because beyond that, I don't really know of any instances of "dirty" play from the Bulls. The championship Bulls and the Jerry Sloan era Bulls were physical, but again, outside of Rodman, I don't know where the "dirty" thing comes from.
Hard to blame Bulls fans for disliking Rondo after he threw Hinrich into the scorers table and cracked Brad Miller in the face last year.... it also helps that Rondo is a good player and was taking it to us a bit... makes it a lot easier to hate him.
I hope you're talking about Dennis Rodman and his antics (which were border-line funny at a certain point, but I can see where an opponent would label him dirty.. I sure did when he was on the Bad Boy Pistons)... because beyond that, I don't really know of any instances of "dirty" play from the Bulls. The championship Bulls and the Jerry Sloan era Bulls were physical, but again, outside of Rodman, I don't know where the "dirty" thing comes from.
Hard to blame Bulls fans for disliking Rondo after he threw Hinrich into the scorers table and cracked Brad Miller in the face last year.... it also helps that Rondo is a good player and was taking it to us a bit... makes it a lot easier to hate him.
Outside of Rodman it depends on how you define dirty, because in the late eighties/early nineties anything short of an on-court mugging could be labeled "just physical", but now a particularly hard foul might be thought of as "dirty". Granted, in my last post I made them sound worse than the Riley Knicks, which isn't my intent, but rather I was trying to say that in the most physical era of modern basketball the Bulls mixed it up as well as or better than anyone. I understand that it was different time in the league, but the nineties Bulls roughed people up more than Rondo ever has. I understand that the Chicago fans don't like him, but to act like he was so atrocious last spring that Hinrich wouldn't want to play for the C's is blowing it out of proportion.
I'm not saying Hinrich wouldn't want to play for the C's, I'm just saying that if Rondo had any class (which he doesn't) he would put forth some type of gesture towards Kirk.
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