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Old 01-05-2012, 11:03 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

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Well, in reviewing the Omer Asik thread below, thebizkit69u was correct about Asik. His comments include:

- Last I heard he was working at the Istanbul McDonald's.

- Remember how hyped Tarlac was by Bulls and co I doubt Asik will ever set foot in the UC, I just have a feeling that hes going to get injured again.

- Call me crazy but I dont understand this whole let them develop oveseas mentality, I find it hard to believe that Omer Asik would become a better NBA player by not playing in the NBA or even the NBDL for that matter. I wouid rather have Asik develop his game in the NBDL where IMO the talent is equal or greater to what is found in the Turkish league.

I come to site rarely, moving to RealGM because of the posters like thebizkit69u.
Some funny quotes, but if your preference is to get drowned out at RealGM, don't blame bizkit... there are plenty of negative posters there as well.
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Old 01-05-2012, 05:01 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

if mirotic is any good the bulls will dip into their MLE to get him.

that said i dont see him as a successor for boozer at all, i dont see his game translating to be a starting nba 4 , he isn't a noted defender , or rebounder and his motor on that side of the ball is occasionally questioned, nor is any kind of post player, in the nba he is a big good shooting slow footed 3 somewhere between danilo galinari and bostan nachbar...depends on how he develops
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

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Well, in reviewing the Omer Asik thread below, thebizkit69u was correct about Asik. His comments include:

- Last I heard he was working at the Istanbul McDonald's.

- Remember how hyped Tarlac was by Bulls and co I doubt Asik will ever set foot in the UC, I just have a feeling that hes going to get injured again.

- Call me crazy but I dont understand this whole let them develop oveseas mentality, I find it hard to believe that Omer Asik would become a better NBA player by not playing in the NBA or even the NBDL for that matter. I wouid rather have Asik develop his game in the NBDL where IMO the talent is equal or greater to what is found in the Turkish league.

I come to site rarely, moving to RealGM because of the posters like thebizkit69u.
First of all these boards are better when... go elsewhere.

Second, Whats wrong with what I said lol. The first one is a joke, if you don't see that then again its good that you are leaving.

I was wrong about the injury concerns, I'm very very surprised Omer has been relatively healthy his whole tenure here.

As for the third thing I said, I still stand by what I said. All things equal and taking money/buy outs out of the equation I would prefer my prospects to develop under NBA coaches and playing against NBA talent. Only an Idiot thinks a player is better off developing overseas than in the NBA.

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Only an Idiot thinks a player is better off developing overseas than in the NBA.
There are two schools of thought as far as developing potential NBA players that come from overseas. One is that smaller/no minutes in the NBA is better than full-time minutes than overseas, and the other is normal minutes and gaining confidence is better than none or minumal minutes in the NBA. To call someone an idiot for believing in the former sounds childish and your constant derrogratory comments get old.
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

I would rather a player develop in Europe for a period of time getting good minutes than riding pine in the NBA. However, I will say defensive toughness doesn't seem to develop well over there. Also, keep in mind a lot of the Euro players start in those leagues in their teens, sort of substituting for the college experience that you'd get in the US. I have a hard time seeing Euro experience being less valuable than NCAA experience. I do agree with Bizkit, though, that if you can actually earn some NBA minutes, that's probably going to be the most valuable experience. Oh well. It's not like the NBA has some right to sign up all talented basketball players in the universe. If a player wants to play in Europe, fine. The NBA, at this point, will remain the most competitive league, however, so if a player wants to play against the best in the world, the NBA is the place to be.
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

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I would rather a player develop in Europe for a period of time getting good minutes than riding pine in the NBA. However, I will say defensive toughness doesn't seem to develop well over there. Also, keep in mind a lot of the Euro players start in those leagues in their teens, sort of substituting for the college experience that you'd get in the US. I have a hard time seeing Euro experience being less valuable than NCAA experience. I do agree with Bizkit, though, that if you can actually earn some NBA minutes, that's probably going to be the most valuable experience. Oh well. It's not like the NBA has some right to sign up all talented basketball players in the universe. If a player wants to play in Europe, fine. The NBA, at this point, will remain the most competitive league, however, so if a player wants to play against the best in the world, the NBA is the place to be.
The quality of competition is better in the Euro League than in NCAA Basketball. It's actually hard for young players to get good playing time out there. Brandon Jennings saw 18 minutes per game, while Rubio received 23 a game in his final season. Both saw more their first season in the NBA and would have gotten much more playing time in college ball. It speaks well of Mirotic to be playing 25 a game at the age of 20.
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

Mirotic finally starting and embracing his role as the go to guy is what I am liking about this.

Named MVP of December on almost 19ppg and 7rpg. That's quite the coming out party.

Seems like he would be a perfect fit next to Dwight if we can somehow nab him. Imagine trading Deng, Noah, and Gibson for Dwight 2-3 years down the road:

Rose
Rip/Brewer
Charlotte pick/Butler
Boozer/Mirotic
D12/Asik

That team could do some damage, and we would have guys behind the aging Rip/Boozer in a few years.
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

Mirotic has been playing with Real Madrid this preseason... here are his lines so far that I could find:

v. Memphis: 5-11, 2-5 from 3, 2-2 from the line. 14 points, 7 rebounds, 1 steal, 3 fouls in 28:38
v. Toronto: 5-13, 1-6 from 3, 6-6 from the line. 17 points, 12 rebounds 3 blocks 2 TOs, 6 fouls in 36:41.

They may rebroadcast these games on NBATV (or he may have more coming up)... if anyone gets a chance to see him play I'd be interested in their thoughts.
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

^ Watched the game last night.

He has a great feel for the game, brought the ball up on some possessions and certainly wasn't shy in shooting the ball. He played like a skinny Bargnani that could rebound.

Not sure he will ever be a complete NBA player, but he could certainly provide a spark off the bench.
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^ Watched the game last night.

He has a great feel for the game, brought the ball up on some possessions and certainly wasn't shy in shooting the ball. He played like a skinny Bargnani that could rebound.

Not sure he will ever be a complete NBA player, but he could certainly provide a spark off the bench.
Thanks for the scouting report!

I look forward to seeing him play with Derrick one day.
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

^ No problem.

To be honest I was surprised by how big he was, never realised he had that much length. Definite potential, you'll be able to use Mootie from the Rockets as a comparison to how well he'll translate to the NBA this upcoming year.
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

Mirotic will be a decent player. Borderline starter, ideal 6th man kind of guy.
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Re: Bulls’ Mirotic Is Worth The Wait

Mark your words?
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Less posters here, so mr negative stands out more.
Yet MR Negative is right than most people on here... Go figure huh?

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"Some positives," he said. "Some things he has to improve on. But he's highly skilled."
Thibs doesn't sound very excited about the possibility of Mirotic, I'm guessing hes not impressed with his defense.
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