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Old 02-20-2012, 08:45 PM   #46 (permalink)
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They are waiting on bigger deals.
Like what, the reported Derrick Williams and picks for Gasol deal?!

You better believe Laker nation would rather have Boozer and CJ Watson over an un proven rookie like Williams.
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Like what, the reported Derrick Williams and picks for Gasol deal?!

You better believe Laker nation would rather have Boozer and CJ Watson over an un proven rookie like Williams.
Like Dwight Howard. Why give up assets when you can wait until the deadline to see what happens with better players?

And like I said, we don't need to give up Gasol to get players like Brewer and Watson.
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The problem is not Kobe having space. The problem is that our perimeter players outside of Kobe are horrible. Noah won't fix that. He would only make Bynum ineffective and prevent anyone from attacking the paint.
I honestly don't see Watson and Brewer as horrible. Watson can score and has much younger legs than Fisher and Brewer is a nice player off of the bench.

Right now Gasol isn't helping you as he's being mostly relegated to playing outside because your perimeter players are horrible lol.
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I honestly don't see Watson and Brewer as horrible. Watson can score and has much younger legs than Fisher and Brewer is a nice player off of the bench.
Didn't say they were horrible. But we don't need to give up Gasol to get those type of players.

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Right now Gasol isn't helping you as he's being mostly relegated to playing outside because your perimeter players are horrible lol.
It's true that Gasol isn't being used to his utmost because Bynum has forced him out to the perimeter more often. But Noah doesn't solve that problem as he has even less perimeter game and offensive skill.
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The fact that hes depressed and upset that the Lakers have shopped him makes it pretty clear he didn't ask for a trade.


This is similar to the Dwight thread. Gasol didn't ask for a trade, Dwight doesn't want to play for you guys. The whole "Well this is the best they can get so they better do the trade" bullshit doesn't work.
I don't see how this is similar to the Howard thread at all. Nobody here brought up the Gasol deal, its a reported story that leaked and its worth talking about.

Dwight doesn't wan't to play for us and he doesn't want to play for the Lakers so why even bring it up?

What one player says or how he reacts publicly doesn't always mean he feels the same exact way privately. I would not be surprised at all if Gasol asked his agent to send out some feelers on a potential trade to a handful of teams. You think Gasol is sobbing in his underwear after games because he feels like the Lakers don't wan't him, or don't you think hes trying to stay proactive in trying to find a good fit in a market that he feels he can not only feel welcome but also succeed in?
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I don't see how this is similar to the Howard thread at all. Nobody here brought up the Gasol deal, its a reported story that leaked and its worth talking about.

Dwight doesn't wan't to play for us and he doesn't want to play for the Lakers so why even bring it up?

What one player says or how he reacts publicly doesn't always mean he feels the same exact way privately. I would not be surprised at all if Gasol asked his agent to send out some feelers on a potential trade to a handful of teams. You think Gasol is sobbing in his underwear after games because he feels like the Lakers don't wan't him, or don't you think hes trying to stay proactive in trying to find a good fit in a market that he feels he can not only feel welcome but also succeed in?
There is 0 signs of Gasol looking for a deal. You saying otherwise doesn't change that.

Not to mention, as has been said, the deal is terrible. Its Boozer for Gasol with bench players thrown in. The Lakers need a starting point guard, not another pretender.
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Like Dwight Howard. Why give up assets when you can wait until the deadline to see what happens with better players?

And like I said, we don't need to give up Gasol to get players like Brewer and Watson.
Howard doesn't want to sign with you guys so don't act like its the only trade they are working on.

AND its Gasol for Boozer, Brewer and Watson.

Good luck trading Devin Ebanks and Andrew Goudelock for a starting 1 and a top 5 defending wing.

Oh wait, I forgot, you guys actually think Gilbert Arenas is the missing piece to a title team lol.
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Howard doesn't want to sign with you guys so don't act like its the only trade they are working on.

AND its Gasol for Boozer, Brewer and Watson.

Good luck trading Devin Ebanks and Andrew Goudelock for a starting 1 and a top 5 defending wing.

Oh wait, I forgot, you guys actually think Gilbert Arenas is the missing piece to a title team lol.
So now you're upset that no one likes this terrible deal?
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Howard doesn't want to sign with you guys so don't act like its the only trade they are working on.

AND its Gasol for Boozer, Brewer and Watson.

Good luck trading Devin Ebanks and Andrew Goudelock for a starting 1 and a top 5 defending wing.

Oh wait, I forgot, you guys actually think Gilbert Arenas is the missing piece to a title team lol.
They have a TPE from the Odom trade. Know what that is? They can take back $8.9 million worth of salary without giving any players back. That plus draft picks would be more than enough to bring in players like Brewer and Watson.

No need to give that up though until closer to the deadline when things become clearer and opportunities open up.
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There is 0 signs of Gasol looking for a deal. You saying otherwise doesn't change that.

Not to mention, as has been said, the deal is terrible. Its Boozer for Gasol with bench players thrown in. The Lakers need a starting point guard, not another pretender.
I never said hes looking for a deal, I said I would not be surprised if he was though.

Where is that starting 1?

Mo Williams? Good luck getting him from the Clippers for nothing.
Devin Harris?

Your best bet might be Johnny Flynn.
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Didn't say they were horrible. But we don't need to give up Gasol to get those type of players.


It's true that Gasol isn't being used to his utmost because Bynum has forced him out to the perimeter more often. But Noah doesn't solve that problem as he has even less perimeter game and offensive skill.
But you don't need Noah to be that. Noah and Bynum would dominate the paint. THAT is priority #1. So what's your beef? That you then need shooters to take advantage of the space? Craig Hodges was a shooter lol. You can get shooters pretty easily

You wouldn't just be getting Brewer and Watson. You'd be getting Noah obviously.

If I were Paxson I'd throw in that Charlotte pick, which is almost guaranteed to eventually be a top pick. Would that be enough?

Maybe you can't win either way NOW, but that's a pretty good deal.
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They have a TPE from the Odom trade. Know what that is? They can take back $8.9 million worth of salary without giving any players back. That plus draft picks would be more than enough to bring in players like Brewer and Watson.

No need to give that up though until closer to the deadline when things become clearer and opportunities open up.
But why GIVE picks when Kobe's window is closing? Wouldn't you rather get picks?
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I never said hes looking for a deal, I said I would not be surprised if he was though.

Where is that starting 1?

Mo Williams? Good luck getting him from the Clippers for nothing.
Devin Harris?

Your best bet might be Johnny Flynn.
It doesn't matter. CJ Watson is not a NBA starting PG.
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But you don't need Noah to be that. Noah and Bynum would dominate the paint. THAT is priority #1.

So what's your beef? That you then need shooters to take advantage of the space? Craig Hodges was a shooter lol. You can get shooters pretty easily

You wouldn't just be getting Brewer and Watson. You'd be getting Noah obviously.

If I were Paxson I'd throw in that Charlotte pick, which is almost guaranteed to eventually be a top pick. Would that be enough?

Maybe you can't win either way NOW, but that's a pretty good deal.
If all it takes is shooters then the Lakers should keep the better player in Gasol and get those shooters another way.
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But why GIVE picks when Kobe's window is closing? Wouldn't you rather get picks?
I'd rather try to win while Kobe still has something in the tank. They can always buy a late 1st round pick, which is what we always have.
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