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Old 06-30-2012, 02:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rockets pursuing Asik? (Update: 3 day timer likely to start Friday or Sat)

NBA sources: Rockets GM Daryl Morey planning to meet with Bulls restricted free agent center Omer Asik tonight in Los Angeles.

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Re: Rockets pursuing Asik?

Work a sign and trade with them for Kevin Martin. They're rumored to wanting to amnesty him anyways to open up more space.
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Work a sign and trade with them for Kevin Martin. They're rumored to wanting to amnesty him anyways to open up more space.
That would be difficult to make salaries match as I think Omer can only make ~$5ish million his first two years. It would have been virtually impossible under the old CBA, and not fluent enough with the new one to know if rules got more lax. Turning Asik + Rip lets say into Kevin Martin would be a great move if there is some way to make it work.

Sign a starting PG with our MMLE (Kidd, Billups, ?) and then add a vet minimum big man and maybe an undrafted rookie to round out the frontcourt.

Kidd / Teague / Partial guaranteed contract (Rose)
Martin / Korver / Butler
Deng / Korver / Butler
Boozer / Taj
Noah / FA / Rookie

That would certainly be interesting especially if Rose can return in January or Febuary, and allows us all the flexibility in the world next offseason to sign or trade Taj, Korver, and K Mart.
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That would be difficult to make salaries match as I think Omer can only make ~$5ish million his first two years. It would have been virtually impossible under the old CBA, and not fluent enough with the new one to know if rules got more lax. Turning Asik + Rip lets say into Kevin Martin would be a great move if there is some way to make it work.

Sign a starting PG with our MMLE (Kidd, Billups, ?) and then add a vet minimum big man and maybe an undrafted rookie to round out the frontcourt.

Kidd / Teague / Partial guaranteed contract (Rose)
Martin / Korver / Butler
Deng / Korver / Butler
Boozer / Taj
Noah / FA / Rookie

That would certainly be interesting especially if Rose can return in January or Febuary, and allows us all the flexibility in the world next offseason to sign or trade Taj, Korver, and K Mart.
Asik+Korver for Martin

PG-(MMLE)/Teague/Lucas?
SG-Martin/Hamilton/Butler
SF-Deng/Butler/Hamilton
PF-Boozer/Gibson/Scal
C- Noah/Gibson/minimum
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Asik+Korver for Martin

PG-(MMLE)/Teague/Lucas?
SG-Martin/Hamilton/Butler
SF-Deng/Butler/Hamilton
PF-Boozer/Gibson/Scal
C- Noah/Gibson/minimum
Under the old CBA, whatever player you were signing and trading's salary would be halved, making it very difficult to trade big contracts unless you got multiple players involved to make the percentages work. Asik can be signed by another team to $5M in year 1. If that's halved, $2.5 million. We would have to add ~$7.5M in salary I think by memory.

If willing to pay the tax, we could do something like Asik + Brewer + 1 of Korver/Hamilton. However, we are going to have trouble fielding 12 players and we don't know how much LT JR is willing to pay this season.
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Re: Rockets pursuing Asik?

KC Johnson:
Hearing Rockets prepared to offer Omer Asik in the $8 million range annually.
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Re: Rockets pursuing Asik?

blazer, wolves and rockets interested in omer.

would it be possible to swing a s&t with portland for wes matthews?

i like omer for 5mio but 8 is to much for a backup c. the bulls have no flexibility already.
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Work a sign and trade with them for Kevin Martin. They're rumored to wanting to amnesty him anyways to open up more space.
come on now.

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Hearing Rockets prepared to offer Omer Asik in the $8 million range annually.
lol. morey would be putting his career on the line with something like that.
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Re: Rockets pursuing Asik?

Rockets and Asik agree to 3 year 25.1 million dollar deal. Final year will be 15.1 million.
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Rockets and Asik agree to 3 year 25.1 million dollar deal. Final year will be 15.1 million.
Holy cow.

Do we intend to match that? I know it's a lot of money for the final year, but it's only one year and he's our best interior defender.
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Holy cow.

Do we intend to match that? I know it's a lot of money for the final year, but it's only one year and he's our best interior defender.
But they have some other contracts hitting big money then. Namely Noah's.
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well... that's too bad. I really like Asik as a defensive center, but I don't really see how we can match that if it really is 15 million in that last year.
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Hearing Rockets prepared to offer Omer Asik in the $8 million range annually.
It's all over twitter that Omer signed a 3-year 25.1 million dollar offer sheet. Hollinger states his max deal for three years can only be structured:

12-13: $5.0M
13-14: $5.2M
14-15: $14.1M

Total = $24.3M

Don't think the Bulls should match that one. We'd be pushing the tax without signing Taj next season and only 7 guys under contract. The year after, we wouldn't be able to go after a max level guy even if we don't re-sign Luol and amnesty Boozer, basically forcing us to re-sing Luol, which then screws up when Boozer's contract was up. Re-signing Asik kills our future flexibility, and given a choice between keeping Taj or Asik, I think Taj is the right answer.

Too bad, as I wanted to trade Asik last year for another player or a pick.
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Do you match under the premise that you have a couple of years to move him before that big number kicks in?
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How do you fix the Rockets? With an aluminum ****ing baseball bat. Darryl Morey can't be fired soon enough for me.
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