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How Would You Fix the Bulls?
With the current roster in place, can this team tread water in the playoff hunt until DRose gets healthy?
Can this team win a championship if it is fully healthy? Would you match Omer Asik's seemingly impending offer sheet from the Rockets for the terms reported? Can Richard Hamilton, Luol Deng, and Carlos Boozer be the top 3 scorers on a playoff team at this stage in their careers? What sort of return would you be expecting to get in a Korver-to-Atlanta trade? Do you see an amnesty candidate on this roster? What do you think of the job Tom Thibodeau has done with this squad so far? If the Bulls sign Anthony Tolliver, what will he bring to this team? Would you have declined Ronnie Brewer's option and let him become a free agent this offseason? Will Marquis Teague make up for the loss of CJ Watson? http://hoopshype.com/salaries/chicago.htm
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Re: How Would You Fix the Bulls?
I look at the Bulls like a rotting old building with a beautiful exterior. I would start fixing them by gutting the team because frankly the longer we wait, the worse the problem will get. Repairing this team with Patches will not get us a title. I'm still under the impression that the Bulls main goal is winning a title but if all they want is to be a revenue machine of a team who is always competitive yet never win a title, then be prepared for things to just stay the same.
I would package the Mirotic rights or our Bobcats pick for a young up and coming player. Utah is a team full of young players who have a ton of potential, Alec Burks, Enes Kanter and ESPECIALLY Derrick Favors could be targets. I really Think Favors is on the verge of turning into a legit defensive force who can score. Taking a chance on a guy like DeMarcus Cousins could end up huge. There are moves to make if we had a smart GM or even one willing to take a risk. Playing it safe in today's NBA which is overrun by the un competitive nature of stars joining forces is just not going to work anymore. Its time to get creative and its time to say goodbye to guys like Noah, Deng and Boozer. Its time for a change, even with Rose 100% we aren't going to win a title. |
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Re: How Would You Fix the Bulls?
The first move is getting rid of Pax and Gar. Let's face it. They lucked into Derrick Rose, and got Thibodeau because of his bloodlust for a Head Coaching gig. Every other move has been mediocre otherwise.
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The Bulls suck and have no chance of beating the superHeat, therefore blame management. Isiah Thomas for GM. Makin moves to make moves! We had no flexibility this offseason minus trading Deng for a draft pick or going after Mayo or Lee. Neither of those moves help us much next season or the future. We were in contender status this offseason. Unfortunately, the Rose injury puts a damper on those plans. Retool for next offseason if you can't get guys you want this one. All we are doing is getting a better draft pick if we wait. |
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The freaking lakers have a payroll hovering around 90 million yet they targeted Nash and got him, and they are now in the lead to get Dwight Howard! So please stop with this excuse. The truth is, the bulls management lacks vision. They honestly believe that come 2014 mirotic will be enough. |
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The Lakers have a two-year window to win a title, and I still don't think they are above OKC, San Antonio, Miami, or a healthy Bulls. That may change depending on what they give up to get Dwight. After that, all they may be left with is Dwight if Kobe does retire. Our window is much larger, particularly if you believe that Rose will not be back to his old form come playoff time. What moves would you make with either $3 or $5 million in FA. Trade for Joe Johnson? |
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even at full strength the team lacks the offensive chops and the overall size to be a true contender, the best teams are usually very good on defense , but can make their shots in an efficient manner , the bulls dont do this , the count on rose for so much but they dont get as much as they should out of it. they dont draw a lot of fouls nor do they hit their shots a great rate and they get away with it in the regular season , but in the playoffs they get exposed , also because they rely so much on rose it put an awful lot of strain on him , he gets banged up alot . what they need is a young efficient scorer to play off of rose and even someone who can make scoring easier for rose , so he doesn't wind up taking so much punishment getting his points .
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Re: How Would You Fix the Bulls?
The Bulls now find themselves in Basketball HELL. They are not good enough to win a championship, and are also not bad enough to build through the draft. They are in mediocre land, the worst place to be. This is ALL because of the Rose injury... With him, we saw the Bulls could have the best record in the NBA and be competitive with anyone. Good enough to win a title? May never know now, but they could play with anyone.
So now what? Next year is a wash... If, and when Rose comes back, he will most likely be less then 100%... Hopefully he comes back towards the 2nd half of the year and eases into getting used to his new knee, then has all off-season to train and prepare and come back in 2 years better than ever. So why go into the lux tax for no reason? Plus, w/o Rose, there isn't a player out there that makes us competitive. Looking ahead, we are about to have a ton of flexibility, and it's exciting. Boozer plays another year and then can get amnestied. Deng is coming off the books (or traded), we have a young PF in Europe that eventually will find his way to the UC, plus we have that Charlotte pick that becomes more valuable as each day passes... The Bulls need to stand pat this upcoming year, see what the young kids can do, and then make moves in year 2... Putting themselves to land an additional star to play along with Rose... Another star and a good bench is exactly what this team needs, and Gar is putting them in that position. |
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Re: How Would You Fix the Bulls?
With the Nets acting with seemingly no regard to costs as long as it makes them better in the short-term, the Bulls might just be best served trying to swap Boozer for Humphries in order to lop a year off of Boozer's deal and get a banger to protect Noah. If you could send out Boozer and maybe a protected first and get back Humphries(big expiring next season to toy with) and Brooks, it might make the team better short-term and long-term. Plus, Deron Williams has an established history of making Boozer a bit better, so the Nets might bite.
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The fact of the matter is, management does need blame. While the Thunder let the team be Durant's team, signed nobody to over 6 million, sucked and got Westbrook and Harden (and Ibaka), we had to sign Deng right away to stupid, f-ing retarded money for a player of his ability. Why? Well, you have to get Deng!!! I mean you HAVE TO! If he gets away, we could become the 2002 Bulls!!! Look at what we were under Krause! We must run from that or it will catch us within days! It was fear-driven management. So they do deserve blame. We should have traded Deng for a pick. That last paragraph shows why you'd never build a championship team. Trading Deng for a pick and flexibility doesn't help us?! How? We need a second star. High picks and flexibility help you in that regard. Cap hell and low picks do not help you.
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If you successfully proved that no good/second star type player was ever available ever, Paxson still sucks? Why? The contract he gave Deng. That's all that need be said. But, I know. No good player has ever been available for Paxson.
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Re: How Would You Fix the Bulls?
WRONG.
This is because you gave 39 million (in 2013 salary) to Noah, Deng and Boozer. Who of them is a championship #2? Who is the #2 scorer on this team? Is he good enough for us to be a championship team?
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