narek

It does give us someone who might create some spectacular plays from time to time with Rose out. that's something.

PD

It is disappointing that after many years we are still searching for that good/great SG.

yodurk

There really aren't that many in this league.

Tier 1 -- Kobe, Wade
Tier 2 -- Eric Gordon, Joe Johnson
Tier 3 -- Kevin Martin, Iggy

Then a whole bunch of pretty flawed options, e.g., Ray Allen (old), Ben Gordon (expensive, one-dimensional), Marcus Thorton (see Ben Gordon), Mayo, etc.

jnrjr79

Right. Also, I think the "We just need a SG!" meme was on some level more accurate pre-Rose. Once Rose was acquired, the need is really more general in that you want a 2nd star. That player could be at the 2, the 3, or the 4 (assuming the Bulls are intent on keeping Noah absent a deal for Howard). I see no reason why, if you believe the Bulls need more star power next to Rose, that it has to come from the 2 guard position. Upgrading Deng or Boozer and riding out Hamilton/Bellini/Hinrich for the year could be a fine approach.

PD

I agree with your statement. We just need a 2nd star in general. The best scenario would be either at the 4 or 5. However, big men are getting way overpaid nowadays (Hibbert, McGee, Nene, etc). And these players aren't even stars.

jnrjr79

That's certainly true. We have our own example of that in Boozer. A very good player who we pay nearly the max, but isn't truly the star you need in that slot to make the team as strong a championship contender as you'd like to see.

True elite players are scarce. That's why there are only two "superteams" if you believe in that concept.

R-Star

I'd say Hibbert is paid just fine considering Boozer and Noah's contract.

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Rhyder

Now Noah is overpaid?

R-Star

If a Bulls fan is saying Roy Hibbert is overpaid, then yes, so is Noah in comparison.


I think both contracts are fine though to clarify. Just saying.

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jnrjr79

So, the question of whether a player is overpaid is a function of who posits the player is overpaid? That's logical.

R-Star

The point is, Roy Hibbert isn't overpaid. You guys would be glad to have him at what he makes.

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PD

I never said that Noah was not overpaid. In general big men are overpaid. Noah is in the class of Hibbert when it comes to being overpaid. Boozer is way overpaid. Unless you are lucked out with a Bynum, Howard, Bosh, or one of those guys who you can depend on to carry your team, you are likely overpaying.

R-Star

Now I think you're overrating Bosh.

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Luke

If your avatar Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder? Because if so then I forgive you for getting rid of the Kenny Powers one.

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Formerly VanillaPrice

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No one tells me what to do.

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