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Old 09-14-2012, 01:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Russell on Noah: He's really good

In order to let the Malcolm Thomas thread die a merciful death, and to irritate those who see Noah as holding our team back, Bill Russell enters the fray:

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"A player who doesn't get much attention and is one of my favorites to watch is Joakim Noah," Russell said. "The Bulls don't utilize some of his skills. Not only is he a good rebounder but he's an excellent passer. A good passer is more important to a team than a good shooter on offense."
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Re: Russell on Noah: He's really good

Noah is a good starting center. Good being the operative word here. Lets not act like Noah is some great player here. Hes a reliable starting 5 with plenty of strengths, and plenty of weaknesses.
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Noah is a good starting center. Good being the operative word here. Lets not act like Noah is some great player here. Hes a reliable starting 5 with plenty of strengths, and plenty of weaknesses.
Hey, I like Noah.

He might be my favorite player on the Bulls after Rose.

But no argument regarding his strengths and weaknesses.

I have a small sliver of hope that he'll regain some confidence in that tornado shot and even add a hook.

It's cool that Russell likes him. Russell is awesome.
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A good passer is more important to a team than a good shooter on offense."
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Bwahahahaha.
I don't disagree with the statement. Would you rather a top 5 assist man on the team, or a top 5 3 point shooter? To me its a very simple question. Although how that relates to Noah...... I'm not sure.
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Bwahahahaha.
I know I know, what the hell does that guy know about basketball?

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I don't disagree with the statement. Would you rather a top 5 assist man on the team, or a top 5 3 point shooter? To me its a very simple question. Although how that relates to Noah...... I'm not sure.
He din't say a top five passer or top 5 3 point shooter.

Joakim Noah isn't either one of those two.

IMO A good passer is not better than a good shooter on offense, case in point the simple fact that a team drafted Bradle Beal over Kendal Marshall, Marshall is one of the best PURE passers that has come out of college IN A LOOOOONG time.

But lets focus on Noah here, Russel says we don't utilize him enough. Ok, name me one team in the NBA that utilizes their Center as much as the Bulls do in the passing game? Maybe Pau Gasol.

What exactly does he want the Bulls to do with Noah that we haven't been doing?

There is only so much you can do with a big man who can't create offense for himself. What made Chris Weber so deadly? Was it the fact that he was probably the best passing big man in the game, or was it the fact that he was an all world offensive player as well? It was a combination of both his passing and scoring that made him such a dangerous player. Unfortunately Noah doesn't have the offensive tools to be used the way Russel thinks we should use him.
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He din't say a top five passer or top 5 3 point shooter.

Joakim Noah isn't either one of those two.

IMO A good passer is not better than a good shooter on offense, case in point the simple fact that a team drafted Bradle Beal over Kendal Marshall, Marshall is one of the best PURE passers that has come out of college IN A LOOOOONG time.

But lets focus on Noah here, Russel says we don't utilize him enough. Ok, name me one team in the NBA that utilizes their Center as much as the Bulls do in the passing game? Maybe Pau Gasol.

What exactly does he want the Bulls to do with Noah that we haven't been doing?

There is only so much you can do with a big man who can't create offense for himself. What made Chris Weber so deadly? Was it the fact that he was probably the best passing big man in the game, or was it the fact that he was an all world offensive player as well? It was a combination of both his passing and scoring that made him such a dangerous player. Unfortunately Noah doesn't have the offensive tools to be used the way Russel thinks we should use him.
Those are good points. Which is why I wish that Noah would work on that shot and hook, enough to make it respected. It would enable the Bulls to use his other skills more effectively. With Rose out, he's going to have to develop that part of his game. Let's hope he makes some strides.
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Re: Russell on Noah: He's really good

He's an emotional guy, and let's his emotion's kinda ruin his game from time to time and immature. but a solid rebounder.
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I don't think he lets his emotions ruin his game at all.
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Those are good points. Which is why I wish that Noah would work on that shot and hook, enough to make it respected. It would enable the Bulls to use his other skills more effectively. With Rose out, he's going to have to develop that part of his game. Let's hope he makes some strides.
Well that shot is not going to get any better, his form is horrible and while it goes in from time to time, when guarded its a whole different story.

A hook shot would be nice, but honestly I haven't seen many big men with a solid hook shot in recent years.
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Well that shot is not going to get any better,

Why not? The dude significantly improved his FT%. I'm fairly comfortable with Noah taking some mid-range jumpers here and there to keep defenses honest. I wouldn't hold my breath on developing a hook shot at his age, though.
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