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Old 11-27-2012, 06:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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About last night.

Let me just start by saying that Tom Thibodeau lost last nights game against the Bucks, no buts, he flat out cost the Bulls that game.

That being said, I congratulate him for doing what a lot of angry Bulls fan's want to do and that's tell Garpax that you din't do jack shit in the off season. Tom's flat out refusal to play his bench last night sent a message that Garpax's moves SUCKED ASS.

One has to wonder what happens from this point forward, but it really makes me happy that this pointless season is shining a light on all the holes that this team has had for the past few seasons.
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Re: About last night.

The one positive takeaway I had from the game was Jimmy Butler's play. He is really showing some signs of being starting role player capable. If that ends up being the case, that could make Deng expendable on our roster.

One guy that might be of benefit to this roster would be LaMarcus Aldridge. Portland's GM has always been interested in Deng and there have been the rumors this season and last that Aldridge wants out of Portland.

Turn Deng and Taj into Aldridge, and we could roll out:
Rose/Hinrich/Nate
Rip/Hinrich
Butler/Belinelli/Radmanovic
Aldridge/Boozer
Noah/Boozer/Mohammed

Portland benefits as well by getting much more defensive oriented while still maintaining three scoreres in Batum, Matthews, and Lillard.

Keep Boozer around until we can amnesty him and upgrade the SG or SF into our #2 option or until Mirotic comes over.
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Re: About last night.

Yeah our off-season was definitely crap and the team we have going out there isn't very good at all. I don't blame GarPax though, I put all the blame on Reinsdorf. With the financial limitations put on GarPax, there really is no way to building something anywhere close to what we had these last two years.

Still, we should have kept Watson and Korver over Kirk, and maybe even Ronnie Brewer. At this point, I just hope we can strike a deal for either K-Love or Lamarcus Aldridge, while keeping Rose and Noah, and if possible, Taj too. We had an unconventional team these last two seasons, but it's basically impossible to replicate that team and still get results, which is why it was unconventional.

I'm hoping the T-Wolves keep sucking and that Love wants out. He has raved about the Bulls a few times before, so hopefully we end up being his top destination. Just have to hope the Bobcats pick keeps gaining value and center a deal around that and Mirotic, assuming he will sign with the T-Wolves to play his Rubio.

Like Rhyder said, the positives I'm taking out from this season is Jimmy Butler. I'm hoping he keeps seeing decent minutes so that by seasons end, we could see him being a potential 5th option kind of starter. I'm also liking Noah's game this season, he's looking more and more like a solid. 3rd scoring option. I hope eventually we realize Kirk is trash and begin playing Teague instead. I liked what I saw from him in his limited minutes. At this point I think our number 1 priority has to be developing the young guys to see if we have a potential trade chip in one of them.
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Re: About last night.

I hate losing a game just to make a point. The Bulls had the game won but could not hold on because our bench is so bad. Here is the best hope!

Thibodeau sticks to his guns and only gives playing time to players who deserve it. Somehow this gets through to at least some of these players.

The best option is that Kirk and Taj find their game. Both are having subpar years. I am baffled by Taj. I really thought he would be pushing Boozer for a starting role this year. I am less suprised by the problem Kirk is having. He will probably never be a legit starting gaurd in the NBA.

Butler and Teague also have a chance. Butler needs to find a consistent jump shot. Teague needs playing time. At this point there is no way to tell if he can play in the NBA or not.

Robinson, Bellini and the rest I have little hope for. Maybe by some miracle, they buy in to what the Bulls are about but based on their performances this year, I doubt it. If these guys do not quickly buy in, I would cut them and take the salary cap hit. That would really send a message.
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Let me just start by saying that Tom Thibodeau lost last nights game against the Bucks, no buts, he flat out cost the Bulls that game.

That being said, I congratulate him for doing what a lot of angry Bulls fan's want to do and that's tell Garpax that you din't do jack shit in the off season. Tom's flat out refusal to play his bench last night sent a message that Garpax's moves SUCKED ASS.

One has to wonder what happens from this point forward, but it really makes me happy that this pointless season is shining a light on all the holes that this team has had for the past few seasons.

I agree the Bulls looked like they lost because the starters were gassed. While I'm happy to see Thibs closing games more with the starters, unfortunately, I don't think that's a result of a change in his philosophy.

What's funny is that you know Thibs wasn't riding the starters to send a message to GarPax. He was just playing the only guys he can trust. It's really a testament to how poor the bench has played this year. Butler is the only remotely encouraging guy, and Taj's regression has been really troubling. Who wouldn't pick Omer over Taj now?

One thing I think is important to note is that much of the Bulls' success in the last two seasons has been predicated upon a model that is different than most NBA contenders. Specifically, the Bulls only have one elite star. Their big advantage was the bench mob was so much better than other teams' benches. So, the Bulls could actually expect to generate or extend leads during bench minutes. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a lot of other teams that had a model like that. Sure, contenders may have an elite sixth man, but an entire rotation of 2nd tier players that were superior, I can't recall off the top of my head.

The problem with the model the Bulls were employing is the bench players were gaining recognition for their outsized contributions. When that happens, it means those guys are going to get paid when their deals are up. Ultimately, then, the bench mob model was inevitably going to be short-lived, as the Bulls weren't going to pay all these guys (either because they were cheap or because they needed to maintain cap flexibility, depending on your perspective). Now we're seeing what happens when you try to assemble a new bench mob out of spare parts. It sucks.

The Bulls will be better when Derrick returns, at least at some point. However, that bench mob edge is still going to be gone. Without some sort of upgrade of the supporting cast of starters, it will be interesting to see exactly how competitive the Bulls can be. Your #1 star player in basketball has a much greater impact than in any other team sport. A team losing its star player can go from contender to the lottery. So, Derrick's return may have a major positive impact. Still, other than perhaps Rip's health being improved, I can't see a huge reason to believe this team can be better than it was last year. We didn't have a chance to see how last year's team would have fared against the Heat due to Derrick's injury, but the odds were a coin flip at best, in my opinion. Now, they are less than that.

Ultimately, the new bench players, with the exception of Hinrich, are only locked in on one-year deals, so retooling next year won't be a big issue. Still, you may not do a whole hell of a lot better in terms of talent acquisition. What's needed is an influx of a new legit talent among the starters.
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The one positive takeaway I had from the game was Jimmy Butler's play. He is really showing some signs of being starting role player capable. If that ends up being the case, that could make Deng expendable on our roster.

One guy that might be of benefit to this roster would be LaMarcus Aldridge. Portland's GM has always been interested in Deng and there have been the rumors this season and last that Aldridge wants out of Portland.

Turn Deng and Taj into Aldridge, and we could roll out:
Rose/Hinrich/Nate
Rip/Hinrich
Butler/Belinelli/Radmanovic
Aldridge/Boozer
Noah/Boozer/Mohammed

Portland benefits as well by getting much more defensive oriented while still maintaining three scoreres in Batum, Matthews, and Lillard.

Keep Boozer around until we can amnesty him and upgrade the SG or SF into our #2 option or until Mirotic comes over.

I would find your proposed Aldridge trade to be hugely appealing. I would assume he'd have to express some pretty serious dissatisfaction for Portland to deal him, but perhaps it is possible.

In the short-run, the success of the move would likely revolve quite a bit around whether Boozer can be classy about a transition to the bench. I'm not quite sure how all the minutes would work out. Aldridge is 6'11'', but not too thick. Can you play small ball and have some lineups where Aldridge is sliding over to center to relieve Jo?

The short-term, though, isn't the primary consideration. Long-term it is a great move. Aldridge is signed through 2014. This gives you an opportunity to amnesty Boozer and move Mirotic over. Mirotic can come off the bench for a season behind Aldridge while you evaluate what you have. If Mirotic looks like your long-term stud PF, you can move Aldridge for an asset in return or simply let him walk. If the Mirotic pick was a miss, then you have Aldridge's bird rights and can try to work out another contract.
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I agree the Bulls looked like they lost because the starters were gassed. While I'm happy to see Thibs closing games more with the starters, unfortunately, I don't think that's a result of a change in his philosophy.

What's funny is that you know Thibs wasn't riding the starters to send a message to GarPax. He was just playing the only guys he can trust. It's really a testament to how poor the bench has played this year. Butler is the only remotely encouraging guy, and Taj's regression has been really troubling. Who wouldn't pick Omer over Taj now?
Of course he was sending a message to Garpax. We are talking about a guy who coaches pre season games like they are playoff games! There is NO DOUBT in my mind that if he was happy with the team as is he would have played his bench a few minutes in a 27 point lead, NO DOUBT.

As for Taj, I don't understand why anyone is surprised by his production. This is a guy who can't score, he's a role player who's defensive impact has been limited due to the big 7 foot Turk being gone. He is who is and I think it was silly for anyone to even think that he could start on a contender.

The sad truth is benches don't win titles, we learned it the hard way.
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Re: About last night.

I agree Thibs' rotations were pretty bad and that was a big factor in the loss.

I disagree with the assertion that our bench sucks. (Not to be confused with "they haven't played up to par this season")

Nate Robinson and Jimmy Butler have both been very good overall this year. Every bit as good as CJ Watson and Ronnie Brewer, who they were slotted to replace. And Taj Gibson is the same guy as last year, he just isn't play up to his usual standard.

Belinelli is not at Korver's level but he is also a different type of player; not the "run around screens for a quick look and shot" guy like Korver. I believe he could come around especially when Rose is back to open up space. Belinelli has had his moments and he is still shooting it close to 40% from deep. Thibs is not giving him the minutes, that is for sure.

Once Rose returns, Hinrich gives us combo-guard depth we never had the past two years. The guy is not supposed to be a starter here, he is just a temporary fill in.

The only gaping hole in the bench is the center position. Losing Asik was tough and we do not have anyone close to his level. Though it's not like Nazr has been given any consistent minutes either. Less than 70 total minutes in 14 games. This reminds me of when Kurt Thomas started the season with no minutes and looked horrible back in 10-11, and that turned out OK.
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and I think it was silly for anyone to even think that he could start on a contender.

Who wanted him to start on a contender?
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I am baffled by Taj. I really thought he would be pushing Boozer for a starting role this year.
I'm not insulting anyone but Fergus's thinking on Taj was shared by a lot of Bulls fan's, but none on this board that I could think of. Mostly guys I bump into who think just because Taj dunked on Dwade a while ago, that hes all of a sudden an NBA starter.
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I'm not insulting anyone but Fergus's thinking on Taj was shared by a lot of Bulls fan's, but none on this board that I could think of. Mostly guys I bump into who think just because Taj dunked on Dwade a while ago, that hes all of a sudden an NBA starter.
I'm with you that he's not a starter on a contender. He might be able to start on some teams, but he's too much of a one-way player at this point to be at that level.
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Re: About last night.

I would think that if Thibs was going to send a message to "GarPax" he would have done that in the offseason... I doubt they just go about their business without explaining at least some of their philosophy (punting this year, pretty much) to Thibs over the course of the summer. As I heard Terry Boers mention on the radio when I was in the car a few minutes ago, it seems far more reasonable to assume that the message was being sent to Robinson, Bellinelli and company. In theory, the bench responded, though last nights game was the first game I've missed this year.... looked like the bench did well.
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I'm with you that he's not a starter on a contender. He might be able to start on some teams, but he's too much of a one-way player at this point to be at that level.
Well "At this point" should stop being used because THIS IS who Taj is. Hes never been a good scorer and he never will, what people should really be concerned about is his defense.

Was his impact all on Omer?
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Well "At this point" should stop being used because THIS IS who Taj is. Hes never been a good scorer and he never will, what people should really be concerned about is his defense.

Was his impact all on Omer?
Doubtful. It's interesting that the same names are on the top 20 defensive rating on basketball-reference.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...2_leaders.html

2011-2012
1. Kevin Garnett-BOS 94.2
2. Carlos Boozer-CHI 95.2
3. Dwight Howard-ORL 95.6
4. Joakim Noah-CHI 95.7
5. Josh Smith-ATL 95.9
6. Elton Brand-PHI 96.2
7. Taj Gibson-CHI 96.4
8. LeBron James-MIA 97.4
9. Andre Iguodala-PHI 97.8
10. Marcus Camby-TOT 98.1
11. Serge Ibaka-OKC 98.3
12. Paul Pierce-BOS 98.6
13. Tim Duncan-SAS 98.6
14. Evan Turner-PHI 98.7
15. Tyson Chandler-NYK 98.7
16. Dwyane Wade-MIA 98.8
Ronnie Brewer-CHI 98.9
18. Rajon Rondo-BOS 98.9
19. Udonis Haslem-MIA 98.9
20. Brandon Bass-BOS 99.1


http://www.basketball-reference.com/...3_leaders.html

2012-2013
1. Tim Duncan-SAS 94.0
2. Roy Hibbert-IND 94.2
3. Josh Smith-ATL 94.7
4. Tony Allen-MEM 96.0
5. Reggie Evans-BRK 96.0
6. Dwight Howard-LAL 96.2
7. Zaza Pachulia-ATL 97.1
8. Joakim Noah-CHI 97.2
9. Taj Gibson-CHI 97.4
10. Carlos Boozer-CHI 97.4
11. Paul George-IND 97.8
12. Andre Drummond-DET 98.1
13. David West-IND 98.2
14. Kevin Durant-OKC 98.4
15. Larry Sanders-MIL 98.4
16. Tyler Hansbrough-IND 98.4
17. Dorell Wright-PHI 98.6
18. Zach Randolph-MEM 98.6
19. Kris Humphries-BRK 98.8
20. Al Horford-ATL 98.9

Omer did not make the list last season nor this. I think Boozer makes the list because he plays almost all of his minutes with Noah and Deng. I also assume defensive rebounding is somewhere in the calculation, and Boozer is quite adept at that.
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Well "At this point" should stop being used because THIS IS who Taj is. Hes never been a good scorer and he never will, what people should really be concerned about is his defense.

Was his impact all on Omer?

I didn't say "at this point" to imply he might one day become something else. I agree he is a finished product.
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