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Old 03-05-2013, 03:15 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Rose's ideal return date

I also think something that might have played into this equation is, the Bulls want to rightfully avoid any negative PR if Rose does get injured again. Say he came back in January and then had a freak accident. I guarantee everyone and their mother would've said "should've held him out longer, you just ruined D-Rose's career", regardless of facts. I think we may be reaching the point where, if he did get injured again, they can always look back and say we followed a proven process and gave it more than enough time to heal, to stay exempt from blame. It may sound silly but the public eye rarely takes the time to pay attention to all the details of a situation, and they will judge with an immediate knee-jerk reaction looking to play the blame game.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:20 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Rose's ideal return date

Updated news in case anyone cares:

http://www.csnchicago.com/bulls-talk...ce-rose-status
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Re: Rose's ideal return date

FWIW, KC Johnson on the Score this morning said he's changed his mid-March prediction to now thinking that Derrick won't return at all this season.

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Re: Rose's ideal return date

Care to elaborate? I heard the end of that interview, and didn't hear him reiterate that statement. I did hear Hanley ask if the uncertainty about his return was a distraction, and KC said no. What was his conclusion based on?
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Re: Rose's ideal return date

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FWIW, KC Johnson on the Score this morning said he's changed his mid-March prediction to now thinking that Derrick won't return at all this season.

Sadface.
I heard this too.

Whats Bullshit is that I bet JR knows hes not coming back, yet they put Rose as day to day... I bet this is only done to sucker in more season ticket holders to shell out more money on playoff tickets.

I would be so pissed if this is the case. I would lose so much respect for Rose and the Bulls if they trick their fans like this.
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Care to elaborate? I heard the end of that interview, and didn't hear him reiterate that statement. I did hear Hanley ask if the uncertainty about his return was a distraction, and KC said no. What was his conclusion based on?

It didn't sound like anything definitive, particularly. He seemed to acknowledge it was just his own prediction when he first thought March, and it's just his prediction now that it won't be this year. Rose's recent comments to David Aldridge (saying he had some "discomfort" in his knee when driving to the right side), combined with his earlier "110%" comments led KC to believe that it seemed more likely that Derrick would sit out the remainder of the year. Basically, my read was KC thinks Derrick rates himself now as something less than 110%, Derrick says he won't come back until he's 110%, and time is short to hit that mark.

(This is setting aside the whole 110% expression as an impossibility/colloquialism that abuses the English language. )
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Whats Bullshit is that I bet JR knows hes not coming back, yet they put Rose as day to day... I bet this is only done to sucker in more season ticket holders to shell out more money on playoff tickets.

Tinfoil hat time!

If a season ticketholder does not pay for playoff tickets, they also forfeit their seats for the next season. Nobody wants to do that, because next season, Derrick will be back. Moreover, they actually have a season ticket waiting list, so anyone that bailed this year would easily be replaced.

So, anyway, that particular theory doesn't have any legs.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:42 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Tinfoil hat time!

If a season ticketholder does not pay for playoff tickets, they also forfeit their seats for the next season. Nobody wants to do that, because next season, Derrick will be back. Moreover, they actually have a season ticket waiting list, so anyone that bailed this year would easily be replaced.

So, anyway, that particular theory doesn't have any legs.
Not just season ticket holders but the casual fan. Who the hell would shell out big bucks on another season if they don't even know if the Bulls only damn exciting player will play again.

Where is the harm in just saying Rose isn't playing this season?
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It didn't sound like anything definitive, particularly. He seemed to acknowledge it was just his own prediction when he first thought March, and it's just his prediction now that it won't be this year. Rose's recent comments to David Aldridge (saying he had some "discomfort" in his knee when driving to the right side), combined with his earlier "110%" comments led KC to believe that it seemed more likely that Derrick would sit out the remainder of the year. Basically, my read was KC thinks Derrick rates himself now as something less than 110%, Derrick says he won't come back until he's 110%, and time is short to hit that mark.
This is basically what I was saying. You guys seemed to take my statements as saying I don't want Rose to come back. I wasn't saying that, I was saying time is running short. If in the next two weeks Rose doesn't feel he's ready to come back, he probably won't feel it's time to come back this season.
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Not just season ticket holders but the casual fan. Who the hell would shell out big bucks on another season if they don't even know if the Bulls only damn exciting player will play again.

Where is the harm in just saying Rose isn't playing this season?

Well, your first post was limited to season ticket players, but it still holds true for non-season ticketholders. Every game sells out. There is a season ticket waiting list. There is literally nothing to gain for the Bulls, from a ticket-selling perspective, by playing games on this front. I would also note that all Bulls playoff games before Rose sold out, too.

Long story short, these seats will not be empty.
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This is basically what I was saying. You guys seemed to take my statements as saying I don't want Rose to come back. I wasn't saying that, I was saying time is running short. If in the next two weeks Rose doesn't feel he's ready to come back, he probably won't feel it's time to come back this season.

I agree he may not want to come back if time is short, but you have to remember the Bulls will be in the playoffs. Even playing 2 weeks of regular season and then the playoffs themselves gives him considerable time in games.
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Re: Rose's ideal return date

Why should Rose risk it? We can't beat the Heat with this current team + fully healthy Derrick Rose.

Do you really want to see him come back so that we can lose to the Heat in the second round?
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Why should Rose risk it? We can't beat the Heat with this current team + fully healthy Derrick Rose.

Do you really want to see him come back so that we can lose to the Heat in the second round?
I am more afraid of what 18 consecutive months of ZERO in-game NBA action will do to Rose, than I am about him reinjuring himself or calling more playoff experience pointless (it's never pointless, IMO, anyways). He might not look like MVP Rose at all next season if he starts the season that rusty. The list of players who miss entire seasons and then come back as good as their old selves is a very short one.
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Where is the harm in just saying Rose isn't playing this season?
If they don't know, should they say he's not coming back?

Whether Rose comes back this season is up to Rose, not the front office.
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Why should Rose risk it? We can't beat the Heat with this current team + fully healthy Derrick Rose.

Do you really want to see him come back so that we can lose to the Heat in the second round?
Please identify what the "risk" is.
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