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Old 11-18-2003, 12:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think Jamal's commitment to playing at Ruckers park this summer shows an interest in a playground kid of ball. I'm not sure it was totally benefitial for him to be doing that, from the mental aspect of the game. Don't these kinds of games encourage you to save yourself on defense so you can play better on offense? And certainly sharing the ball and setting up offenses are non existant. I wish JC had been able to practice these skills which are really important if you want to be a NBA point guard, as opposed to flashy cross-overs. Wouldn't he have been better served, doing defensive drills, learning how to use his length to lock down players. Wouldn't it have been better to be playing against real NBA talent in organized pick-up games the way many NBA players do? I heard this is what Tyson did this summer.

Anyway, I agree that Jamal has a load of talent. I have seen more energy from him defensively since the benching. If we change our offensive approach to one which is more ballanced between inside and an outside game, then he'll start putting up big numbers again, and carrying our team. He just needs to earn his way on the court with defense and better shot selection. When he does come back, he'll be twice the player he was when he left.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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ACE this is why he was replaced. He is NOT playing the way they want. He knows it and does not seem to care, hence the benching. He will stay on the bench until he starts playing how they want him to or he will be gone.
He does not seem to play well the way they ask him to play. It like asking Jalen Rose to play like Reggie Miller. Or asking Kirk Hinrich to play like Jalen Rose.

Its not realistic. They are setting him up to fail.

That's cool. I'll enjoy watching him light up the Bulls.

My two favorite Bulls since the rebuilding have been Artest and Jamal. These idiots are making it tough to keep liking this squad.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:59 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Re: Re: Since people have short-term memories, heres Jamals bio from '2002-2003

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Jamal did trust the orginization and look where it got him! He was working hard all summer, adding muscle and training at the Berto as he was asked to do. He was told coming into the season this would be his team to lead and he gets replaced with a rookie pg 6 games into the season or whatever?
Obviously there are some things that he was asked to do that he hasn't done yet. Bill doesn't hold grudges...if JC were up to snuff, he'd be out there
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The consensus from Clippers fans and from what I saw on KCal (while in LA) and TNT (while in Chicago) was that Kandi wasn't fitting in to the team's long term plans.
Thats true. Clippers fans were pretty happy to see him go.
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No offense... I'm one of the few Clipps fan's on this board... The profile you provided is bogus... Kandi only played 36 games last year... Was alway's injured and alway's whining bout something during his time in LA, despite being force fed the rock night in night out... I guess Kandi and Craw do share something in common when it comes to being me first player's instead of looking out for the good of the team.
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Old 11-18-2003, 01:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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ACE this is why he was replaced. He is NOT playing the way they want. He knows it and does not seem to care, hence the benching. He will stay on the bench until he starts playing how they want him to or he will be gone.


This is one of the reasons why I despise Cartwright and management as a whole. Instead of utilizing player strengths and allowing a player to excel by making him play his game, BC and Pax try have a set idea of what a player should be at that certain position and try to make a player change to become that.

Good coaches don't do that. They find offenses and defenses that go well with their players strengths.


Good post by kucoc4ever. I feel the same way. It's becoming hard to stay loyal to a team that's being run by management so bent on ****ing things up.

I can only sit back and wait.

4-7 witha very talented and deep roster. About to be 4-12.
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No offense... I'm one of the few Clipps fan's on this board... The profile you provided is bogus... Kandi only played 36 games last year... Was alway's injured and alway's whining bout something... I guess Kandi and Craw do share something in common when it comes to being me first player's instead of looking out for the good of the team.
That Kandi bio was from 2000-2001, it wasn't bogus.
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No disrespect... It's all bout the present... He was the first option on O for his entire time in LA... Couldn't board or play consistant D worth a damn... When you put that into the equation, those number's are insignificant IMO.
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This is one of the reasons why I despise Cartwright and management as a whole. Instead of utilizing player strengths and allowing a player to excel by making him play his game, BC and Pax try have a set idea of what a player should be at that certain position and try to make a player change to become that.

Good coaches don't do that. They find offenses and defenses that go well with their players strengths.
Question: What if the team is better built around another player or players strengths---and you need certain qualities at PG to make the best of them?

It might be that we'd give Jamal more of a free reign without all the inside players.
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No disrespect... It's all bout the present... He was the first option on O for his entire time in LA... Couldn't board or play consistant D worth a damn... When you put that into the equation, those number's are insignificant IMO.
Here's your present.

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WAS 38 minutes 5-18 FG 4 AST 12 Pts
ATL 26 minutes 3-7 FG 5 AST 7 Pts
@MIL 35 minutes 6-15 FG 5 AST 15 Pts
HOU 37 minutes 6-18 FG 3 AST 19 Pts

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38, 35, 37 minutes not enough for the kid? Or does he need more than ~15 shots to get warmed up?
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Huh?... I wasn't talking about Crawford... Strickly Kandi convo on my part... But... I've alway's agree'd that Craw shot too much and didn't carry a high enough FG% percentage to be doing so.
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Question: What if the team is better built around another player or players strengths---and you need certain qualities at PG to make the best of them?

It might be that we'd give Jamal more of a free reign without all the inside players.
No, I don't think so. There are many teams with very good inside and outside players.

I'm getting tired of bringing up "the end of last season" example, but Eddy, Jamal, and more importantly the team played very well all at the same time. That's what all the excitement for this year came from. The performances by Jamal and Eddy while the team started to play better and win.

It's not like Hinrich is bringing the best out of Eddy Curry. Curry is still struggling and it doesn't have anything to do with the PG.

Cartwright's game plan for inside scoring should ONLY come from Curry and Fizer. Marshall has become more of a perimeter scorer. Another thing that drives me crazy with Bill Cartwright is how Hinrich or whoever actually passes the ball to Blount and Baxter in the post. It's a joke. Baxter and Blount have no offensive skills. When Eddy and Fizer aren't getting the ball on offense, then the focus should be with Crawford or Rose on the perimeter.

Cartwright has no game plan.
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Question: What if the team is better built around another player or players strengths---and you need certain qualities at PG to make the best of them?

It might be that we'd give Jamal more of a free reign without all the inside players.
I guess I'd just say that we should look back at the end of last season. Curry played his best ball ever while Crawford was playing like an all-star.

Why wouldn't that work now?
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