AstheFranchiz2K2

i really dont like the idea of gooden on the team. i have a feeling he will ruin chemistry when he is on the court. They wouldve been better off getting stromile swift, but thats jus my opinion.

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futuristxen

I'll say it now. I think Varejao will start. Gooden will sit. AV will do the little things that Silas likes in addition to being able to do the bigger things that Gooden specializes in.

He's the better player of the two. Gooden's going to be an unhappy camper.

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mmmdk

You might be right - but have you EVER seen Varejao play ???

I have numerous times ! Varejao is a nice roleplayer/6th man at best. He is very limited but will give you 110% effort. But he is no way near the talent of Drew Gooden or an even better player as Boozer.

The reason I might agree with you, that Varejao eventually might start, is due to Goodens head. But I believe Gooden will "get it" soon - he's still young and very talented.

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Starks

I hope so. He's been traded three times now. He needs to make a fresh start and play within the team system. His contributions will be important to this team.

Did Silas say if most of Jackson's minutes will come at the 2 or 3? I always thought he would mainly play shooting guard in the NBA but maybe not with this team. Either way, I can't wait to see him play. You guys have a promising lineup.

futuristxen

A few times. I liked what I saw. And I like what I've heard from our brazillian friends.

And what I've seen of Gooden, tells me he doesn't have his head on right yet.

The Cavs did this deal for Verejao, not for Gooden. That's been kind of lost in all the hoopla.

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mmmdk

The Cavs did this deal for Verejao, not for Gooden. That's been kind of lost in all the hoopla. [/quote]

Really ? I am somewhat surprised. Varejao never stroke me as being that talented. He cannot dominate in Europe so I don't think he can in the NBA. He is still learning and slowly getting better.

I could be wrong about Varejao and he's the next surprise 2nd round drafted PF á la Boozer. You never know

To add just to your course : I called Gooden a very good poor mans Tim Duncan - Gooden has yet to prove that. But I still believe in Gooden. I also thought that those late 1st round drafting teams that overlooked Boozer were crazy ! And Boozer was even better than that !

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futuristxen

Really ? I am somewhat surprised. [/quote]

Yep. Check it out, despite all the hubbub about this being a deal for Gooden, if you read the link for the story, on the Verejao thread posted...Paxson approached the Magic trying to get Verejao--but the Magic basically insisted that the Cavs take Gooden off their hands as well. He was a throw-in in the deal.

Yet he's treated like the major piece just because no one has seen Verejao play.

IMO Verejao has the tools to be a solid NBA player--better than Gooden. He's still young, but I think Silas will turn him into a helluva compliment for Lebron.

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PauloCatarino

That indeed looks like a solid team...

Just 3 questions;

1- Why would McInnis start over Snow?
Eric is a steady hand, good defender and proven vet... What´s Jeff´s upperhand?

2- Is Steve Hunter gone? Was he traded?

3- How far do you think the Cavs coild go THIS season with that line-up?

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I think that McInnis is likely to start as well. Mainly because he and the team played so well with him on the floor last year. However is Snow gives the team a better chance to win, he will be on the floor. In fact it is likely that they will even spend significant time playing together.

Steven Hunter has not been released or traded. But, speculation is that he may be let go. I don't think this will happen until at least Silas gets a chance to work with him.

I believe that the Cavs will be a playoff team, winning around 42-45 games. They should also be a handful for any team that they play in the first round of the playoffs.

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stoxoz

Now with Drew Gooden in the team they have a good starting forward... and Eric snow, so the lineup should be

PG. Eric Snow
SG. LeBron James
SF. Eric Williams/Luke Jackson
PF. Drew Gooden
C. Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Second lineup

PG. Jeff Mcinnis
SG. Dajuan Wagner
SF. Luke Jackson/Eric Williams/Ira Newble
PF. Desagana Diop/Steven Hunter
C. Steven Hunter/Desagana Diop

So, no the Cavaliers have almoust a perfect team...

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PauloCatarino

Thanx

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I fully expect Gooden to contribute big and be a starter. He was upset about being moved to SF in Memphis(he talked about that in his SLAM diary) and was stuck behind Howard in Orlando. I think that this is the right opportunity for him.

P.S. This is off topic, but does AV still look like Justin Guarini? Because that'd be very annoying to look at...

dominikan_balla1

i really dont think that the cavs will go far with this team especially with no BOOZER that was a really big blow right there b-cuz boozer was just developing in to one of the best power forwards in this league...the cavs do get drew gooden but drew gooden is just a ballhog with terrible defense(he has to realize that he's not the best player in anyone's team) ...and the cavs also get extremely overrated verajao ..whos just a rookie and wont have any primar effects on this team next season or even after...also eric snow is a agein player gettin older every day (he's headin into his 12th season already) in my mind he'll be slow next year..so that leaves lebron who will have a good season next year ...and z in my mind is really just a waist of bein that tall(they should trade him in my mind) .....well i rank the cavs between 9-12 seed in the east..and they'll win about 32-36 games next year...

remy23

As bad as Gooden's defense is, it is actually better than Boozer's and Cleveland actually improves in this area.

I'm keeping the book open on Varejao. With the exception of some of our Brazilian members, the rest of us haven't seen enough of Varejao to make a real strong opinion either way on his promise as a player.

Beats having Kevin Ollie. Snow will produce far more than Ollie and Cleveland's PG play will improve as a result of stronger bench play.