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07-16-2004, 01:23 PM
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Cavs starting five
What do you guys think it will be? I like Luke Jackson, but I would be hard pressed to start him right away. I was thinking of moving LeBron over to the 3 and starting Wagner because of his impressive summer league play. So it would look something like:
PG- McInnis
SG- Wagner
SF- James
PF- ?
C- Z
6th- Jackson
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07-16-2004, 01:39 PM
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I think Jackson should start but several things work against him:
1) Silas likes Newble's hustle and defense (who played a lot of last season with injuries).
2) Silas might not play the rookie right away (Silas has some old school in him).
Sasha is an unknown and will have to work his way up.
Wagner might not start but if he ever did, I won't say I'm shocked. He looks stronger, moves quick (I noticed he gets doubled in the lane now because he gets in at will), and goes to his left hand with ease (forget just going left, Juanny is even doing crossovers and hesistations to the left).
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07-16-2004, 02:19 PM
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Wagner's not going to start... they want him to be a PG, remember? If he's on the team at all, it will be as the backup PG. And I think he's going to be traded.
Luke Jackson may not start right away but if he doesn't, I think he'll earn the spot within a couple months.
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07-16-2004, 07:46 PM
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Does anyone here think that there is ever a chance that bron will be a pg again?
Cos i would love the idea of a wagner and lebron backcourt, if wagner improves his defence he will be able to guard opposing pg's. Or is it that the cavs really do not want Lebron playing pg?
If Lebron does pg, and Luke does become a decent player then it would provide so much room for wags to operate in and let him do what he is good at, score.
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07-16-2004, 07:57 PM
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The Living Legend | ANDRE
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As long as McInnis stays around, LeBron will not be the PG. If McInnis is lost one day and the Cavs don't have another PG in the wings, LeBron would have to be a PG by default.
If Wagner is traded, then that's that. But if he stays, he'll probably still play time at the 2. Because if Juanny is used as an exclusive 1, then you can't run the McInnis-Wagner-James, Ollie-Wagner-James combinations (with this new team, sub in Jackson or Sasha in there too). Despite the "PG" experiment, I think Wagner will be flipping back and forth between the 1 and 2. I really think this PG stuff is Silas wanting to play Wagner more and leave Ollie out more (because scoring is Wagner's thing, so trying to change him this drastically must have some motivation behind it).
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07-18-2004, 10:53 AM
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Newble will start at sf...
Luke IS a hustle player too, he has been racking up the steals and assists in the summer league.
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07-20-2004, 11:54 AM
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Dajuan Wagner is a ball-hog but he will be playing with LeBron James which will force him to share the ball or he will be shipped off. The Cavaliers also just acquired Eric Snow and now the PG position in Cleveland just got a lot more interesting. The Cavaliers starting line-up should look like this.
PG- Eric Snow
SG- LeBron James
SF- Ira Newble
PF- Tony Battie
C- Zyndrunas Ilgauskus
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07-20-2004, 12:10 PM
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Starting 5 will not include wagner... The power forward will probaly be either Center (battie and diop)
From what i hear around this area is that Newble will once again start the season..... Which i was kinda hoping this Sasha could make an impact. I hate seeing Newble out there he has no offense of skills.....
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07-20-2004, 12:50 PM
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even with the new deal i dont think the Cavs will make the Playoffs
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07-20-2004, 01:10 PM
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even with the new deal i dont think the Cavs will make the Playoffs
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Well, they've addressed their two biggest weaknesses from last year.
1. Outside shooting; they were last in the league in 3pt%. Now they have Luke Jackson and Sasha Pavlovic.
2. Point guard play; they were weak at point guard all season. They had Kevin Ollie, who should be a 3rd stringer, and James and Wagner, who aren't really PGs. McInnis helped but they only had Ollie and Wagner to back him up, and they suck. Now they have two starting quality PGs.
They look like a much improved team.
Rebounding was one of their strengths... they were one of the top teams in the league. Losing Boozer will hurt that, but they were already one of the best. They should be able to make up for it.
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07-31-2004, 05:19 PM
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PG- Eric Snow
SG- Luke Jackson
SF- LeBron James
PF- Drew Gooden
C- Zydrunas Ilgauskus
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07-31-2004, 10:44 PM
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silas has already said that jeff mcinnis is gonna be the starter, NOT snow..he is the backup.
PG-Mcinnis/Snow
SG-Lebron/Wagner
SF-Jackson/Pavolic/Newble
PF-Gooden/Varejo/Diop/Hunter
C- Z/Diop/Hunter

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07-31-2004, 10:50 PM
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pg - jeff
sg - lebron
sf- luke
pf - gooden
c - Z
im so happy with that starting lineup altho i think it could start off with lebron at sf and snow and jeff in the backourt with luke on the bench. If the players in the cavs live up to their potential this could be a very successful year for us.
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08-01-2004, 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by <b>Spudd</b>!
pg - jeff
sg - lebron
sf- luke
pf - gooden
c - Z
im so happy with that starting lineup altho i think it could start off with lebron at sf and snow and jeff in the backourt with luke on the bench. If the players in the cavs live up to their potential this could be a very successful year for us.
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I agree with this. Snow is a tweener and is big enough to play some SG. He's a sam Cassell type of guard, imo. Of course his fg% was never around .500 but neither was Cassell. Hopefully in the right system he will finally get recognition. He really is a top 10 guard.
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08-01-2004, 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by <b>c_dog</b>!
I agree with this. Snow is a tweener and is big enough to play some SG. He's a sam Cassell type of guard, imo. Of course his fg% was never around .500 but neither was Cassell. Hopefully in the right system he will finally get recognition. He really is a top 10 guard.
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Snow is in no way a tweener, he is a PG all the way. He can, however, guard 2's as he did in Philly. Don't be surprised to see this lineup a lot:
PG- Snow
SG- McInnis
SF- Lebron
PF- Gooden
C- Ilgauskus
I think the depth chart will be this:
PG- McInnis, Snow
SG- James, Wagner
SF- Jackson, Newble, Pavlovic
PF- Gooden, Varejao
C- Ilgauskus, Diop, Boumtje-Boumtje
They need some serious frontcourt depth but other than that this team looks pretty good.
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