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12-04-2004, 08:21 PM
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Couple of points... they said McInnis was suffering from flu symptoms... but I tell you what... neither he nor Snow could match up with Alston.
Rafer passed up numerous shots to try to get assists, and I'm not sure how many turnovers he had, (he stepped out of bounds maybe 3 times and had a number of bad passes)... but off the dribble and off of screens... man, we had nobody to slow him. He almost won the game by himself.
And the way Bonner was playing in the 2nd quarter, I'm surprised they waited so long in the 2nd half to try to get him involved.
LeBron had 17 points in the last 15 minutes, and McInnis had a huge 3 and another runner late in the game which was big, and Silas HAD to stick with the starters much longer than what he wanted to.... our bench did not play well. I think Silas did another bad substitution rotation when we had a big lead. He took out ALL the starters and went with Tractor, AV, Luke, Lucious and Snow... and they lost all the momentum. Silas needs to keep at least 2 starters in with the bench bunch... when will he learn....
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12-04-2004, 10:47 PM
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Look I don't want to seem like i'm always criticizing Silas...
But he has to do something about the bench lineups. He can't keep subbing in 5 bench players all at once, we are getting annihilated night in night out in terms of bench production when he does this. 70 to 10 tonight bench points in favor of the Raps.
In Denver he kept either Lebron, Z, or McGinnis in the games at all times and the bench guys came in and played well. Now he goes back to the platoon system and we got lucky to pull this one out.
Outside of that, nice to see the team maintain their composure down the stretch and Lebron step up and close the game out for us once again at home.
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12-04-2004, 11:26 PM
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It almost sounds like grade school all over again when you only have 3-4 good players and must keep 2 of them on the floor at all times to play.
These are Professional Basketball players, Silas should expect effort and production out of our bench. I mean half of our bench are veterens there is no excuse. Silas cant keep giving bron,z,jeff m 40 minutes a game.
But on a positive note from the bench Lucius Harris is really picking it up. And i think he would be starting if we werent playing so well. I think Silas doenst want to mess with the starting lineup as we are playing so well now.
And Anderson seems to be playing more. And i like that, did diop see any minutes at all ???
And Luke looked pretty bad out their tonight. That missed layup was terrible and i am not sure if he will ever be able to take anyone to the hoop. Hopefully he can be the next "Thunder" Dan Majerle and just connect from downtown.
Did Sasha/Diop see the floor ?
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12-04-2004, 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by <b>LBJ to LJ for 3</b>!
It almost sounds like grade school all over again when you only have 3-4 good players and must keep 2 of them on the floor at all times to play.
These are Professional Basketball players, Silas should expect effort and production out of our bench. I mean half of our bench are veterens there is no excuse. Silas cant keep giving bron,z,jeff m 40 minutes a game.
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Silas should expect effort and production and he should set up his rotations so that happens!!!!!! You can rest your starters one at time, two at a time, three at a time, etc. There is really no reason to substitute 4-5 bench players unless you have a ridiculously strong second unit like Memphis did last year. Developing players (Jackson, Anderson) and veterans (Harris) do much better with atleast two starters in because 1)continuity is there and not everyone is coming in cold off the bench 2)starters are more talented so some of the more talented players (Z, Lebron) can get easier shots. That doesn't mean the starters have to play the game but they don't have to be all in at the same time
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12-05-2004, 12:07 AM
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Great win for us.. with this win and Pacers loss we our officialy in first plcae in the Central.
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12-05-2004, 08:12 AM
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I guess it was a good game for both teams.
Cleveland did what they had to do at home, beat a depleated Raptor team.
And I guess Toronto should be happy with the way they played tonight, and how they fought back, considering that their best player wasn't playing, and that Cleveland is very good at home.
Good win guys.
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12-06-2004, 07:28 AM
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Sorry to get in here so late, I didn't have my computer with me. But this was a good win for the Cavaliers, it's always good to beat the teams your supposed to beat. It helps that Vince didn't play, but not as much as it hurt Toronto that Rose didn't go off. It seems that everytime that we lose to Toronto it is Rose that does the damage. The Cavs did a good job keeping him in check as well as Bosh and clearly the Raps had no answer for the Cavs front court.
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