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Old 02-11-2005, 08:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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GOODBYE McInnis

I can't wait to get rid of matador mcinnis this offseason. What a joke I actually thought he was a good player because of the Cavs record with him last year. It's more like we just need any competent PG. This is what happens every game with le matador: every PG penetrates, score, get assists, and worst of all get our bigs in foul trouble. He needs to go
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Old 02-11-2005, 08:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Even though Snow has a few problems, I always preferred Snow on the court to McInnis. Since Jeff is a loose cannon, Silas feels afraid to bench McInnis outright and plays McInnis-Snow together at times when it would be better to just play one of them.

I always felt Jeff was a stop-gap at the point, never a long term solution. When his jumper is on, he is happy and his playmaking comes around. But when he's cold, his playmaking is average and the other ways he can influence the game are limited.

Guys like Brevin Knight and Earl Boykins murder McInnis on the defensive end. The Cavaliers are in a compromising situation every time the opposing point guard attacks. Zydrunas racks up fouls to no end and Silas keeps McInnis in the game, when it was his defense that caused the initial collapse. If I were the coach, I would bench McInnis each time he performs like he did tonight. Even if it means some attitude in the lockerroom, so be it.
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Old 02-12-2005, 02:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The problem is Jmac has shown throughout his career he will just plain shutdown and become a cancer if his minutes are reduced.

We might be better off with a spot up shooter type PG who can bring the ball up against pressure and feed the post. With Lebron, we don't really need a playmaking PG at all since he pretty much runs the offense. What we do need is someone who can hit those spot up jumpers Jmac bricks and who can do an adequate job defending the perimeter.
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Old 02-12-2005, 03:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The problem is, once you lose JMac, there's not a lot left lying around to replace him. At least in what the Cavs would need.

I think if Pavlovic and Luke Jackson get more consistent as shooters and defenders, then you can go with Eric Snow for a few years. The Cavs still don't have a long term solution at point guard though. Unless they eventually plan to move Lebron back there.
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Old 02-26-2005, 01:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: GOODBYE McInnis

I always thought drafting Telfair would have been a smooth move for the Cavs...
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I always thought drafting Telfair would have been a smooth move for the Cavs...
As much as I like Luke, I agree. Telfair would have been a great choice. The Cavs obviously need a good young point guard, and I've convinced that Telfair is a very good young point guard.
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Yeah, I'll say Nevus. Cavs missed the boat with Telfair.
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As much as I like Luke, I agree. Telfair would have been a great choice. The Cavs obviously need a good young point guard, and I've convinced that Telfair is a very good young point guard.
It just sort of made sense ya know...

Telfair an up and coming quick pass first PG to feed a future superstar in LeBron and a great interior C in Big Z and you got the 3 main ingredients to success. Give those guys a workhorse PF and a good shooting SG and your set...
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Old 02-26-2005, 08:44 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The problem is, once you lose JMac, there's not a lot left lying around to replace him. At least in what the Cavs would need.

I think if Pavlovic and Luke Jackson get more consistent as shooters and defenders, then you can go with Eric Snow for a few years. The Cavs still don't have a long term solution at point guard though. Unless they eventually plan to move Lebron back there.
I think the only player that Snow would get help from and get ignored for his imability shoot an outside shot is Allen Iverson.

team defense will force Snow to make those wide open shots. James isnt like Iverson like he could just step up another notch in the scoring department.

You guys can get rid of McInnis. You guys just cant. He needs to be there with James, he is your weakside perimeter creator when James is in the lineup and is solid enough to be a 10 minutes playmaker against second unit defenders when James is on the bench.

You guys cant get rid of him. But I wish there we have a young version of Darell Armstrong, he fit the bill with James. I remember Penny Hardaway desipite his poor numbers 16/6/5 but acted as main decoy and he and a 30 years old atrsmtrong won 33-17 in the shorten season and was the third best in the East, But unfortunately, Penny didnt get to work out and his decoy play wasnt enough to stop the "soon in his prime" Iverson. I wish the 99-00 season Penny was there for 98-99, I see that 99-00 Penny could finish the Sixers in 4.
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Antonio Daniels. That's who the Cavs need to get.
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Antonio Daniels. That's who the Cavs need to get.
Daniels would be a great pickup. Improved 3pt shooter, good ball handler and defender, nice size and penetrator.

Plus he's from Ohio, Bowling Green University I believe.
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Maybe trade should of trade for Arroyo?
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Old 02-26-2005, 11:35 AM   #13 (permalink)
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What about Chris Duhon? He's going to be a free agent this summer.
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Old 02-26-2005, 11:39 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Or Marko Jaric. Get Jaric, and Korver. Along with resigning Z.

Jaric/Snow
Lebron/Newble/Welsch/Pavlovic
Korver/Jackson/Pavlovic
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Z/Traylor

Maybe pickup Jared Reiner from the Bulls to play some backup center.
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