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Old 07-20-2005, 11:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Portland/Cleveland trade

Portland trades:

Jarrett Jack
Nick Van Exel

Cleveland trades:

Drew Gooden
Eric Snow
Ira Newble

Cleveland dumps Snow and Newble and gets something of use from Gooden. Van Exel's contract is coming up soon, so more cap space when that comes around.

Cavs:

PG: Saras/Jack/Van Exel
SG: Hughes/Pavlovic
SF: James/Jackson
PF: Marshall/Evans
C: Z/Varejao/Andriuskevicius

I'm just thinking more cap space next year. Was NVE a player or team option this year?
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Portland/Cleveland trade

It's neither. It's a non guaranteed contract. So at any time before a certain date in the season (sorry, I don't recall when), he can be waived at no cost to the team.

While your trade does fill some holes on the Blazer team, I don't think it could happen. We definately need a backup PF and a vet PG would help a lot. However, management seems adamant about not paying the luxury tax this year (the idea being why pay extra money for a team that doesn't even make the playoffs anyways). I'm not certain that Paul Allen really would care if it brought us a true impact player but none of these truly are.
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Old 07-21-2005, 09:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hoopshype rumor

I read on hoopshype that Danny Ferry is offering Drew Gooden in a trade with Dallas for a point guard, either Jason Terry or Devin Harris. I'm sure the Caves would have to include some fillers for Jason Terry. What do you guys think? Sign Ruffin and Evans we'd be all set!!!

PG: Jasikevicius/Harris
SG: Hughes/Pavlovic
SF: James/Jackson
PF: Marshall/Evans/Ruffin
C: Z/Varejao/Andriuskevicius
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Old 07-21-2005, 09:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That would be a very good trade i would like harris more as he is young and athletic and can play both guard positions if needed. Terry is good but hes getting older and his contract is bigger if we dont get saras then i would want terry over harris....
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That would be a very good trade i would like harris more as he is young and athletic and can play both guard positions if needed. Terry is good but hes getting older and his contract is bigger if we dont get saras then i would want terry over harris....
Exactly...If we have Saras then we can groom Devin Harris on the bench and if we don't get Saras then we should trade for Terry b/c he's more experience and his contract comes off next year if they're not satisfied.
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Exactly...If we have Saras then we can groom Devin Harris on the bench and if we don't get Saras then we should trade for Terry b/c he's more experience and his contract comes off next year if they're not satisfied.
I can get down with that.
What happened to Eric Snow though?
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Eric Snow cant shoot worth a lick, i say throw Snow in on the trade....
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Devin Harris would be a great pick up. He handles the ball well and can also score. Osballa23 is exactly right Snow's jumper is worse than Diop's. If the cavs add Harris/Terry Snow would no longer be needed. I say package snow and gooden together and get a backup pg and a backup C.
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I can get down with that.
What happened to Eric Snow though?
We trade him for Reggie Evans and Vitaly Potapenko...please Danny please

Zyndrunas Ilgauskus/Vitaly Potapenko/Martynas Andriuskevicius
Donyell Marshall/Reggie Evans/Anderson Varejao
LeBron James/Sasha Palvovic/Ira Newble
Larry Hughes/Luke Jackson
Sarunas Jasikevicius/Devin Harris

NOW THAT'S A TEAM!
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The Mavs would be stupid to trade Harris he can have a good future and it would be to early to give up on him. Terry be a great pick-up, he is alot better point guard then he gets credit for. I saw him creating off the dribble for his teamates very well at times during the season. Plus he can shoot the play very good and can get out on the break with Lebron and Hughes.
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That would be a very good trade i would like harris more as he is young and athletic and can play both guard positions if needed. Terry is good but hes getting older and his contract is bigger if we dont get saras then i would want terry over harris....
Have we gotten to a point where a 27 year old guy is "getting older"? Terry is just getting to the prime of his career.

Now with that out of the way, why would the Mavs even consider giving up one of thier PGs for a PF? Last time I checked we had Dirk Nowitzki playing PF with Keith Van Horn backing him up. So what would be attractive to the Mavs about Gooden. He is a nice player but he does not fill any of the needs that the Mavericks have.

With Finley about to be released they need a good shooter and they need an athletic backup Center. Gooden can not play Center and even if he could play a little Center the Mavs don't want a guy who is out of position.

I like Gooden but I just don't see how he would fit on the Mavericks and certainly not for one of thier PGs.
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Have we gotten to a point where a 27 year old guy is "getting older"? Terry is just getting to the prime of his career.

Now with that out of the way, why would the Mavs even consider giving up one of thier PGs for a PF? Last time I checked we had Dirk Nowitzki playing PF with Keith Van Horn backing him up. So what would be attractive to the Mavs about Gooden. He is a nice player but he does not fill any of the needs that the Mavericks have.

With Finley about to be released they need a good shooter and they need an athletic backup Center. Gooden can not play Center and even if he could play a little Center the Mavs don't want a guy who is out of position.

I like Gooden but I just don't see how he would fit on the Mavericks and certainly not for one of thier PGs.
The big reason is his contract would expire letting you guys save some more money along when the Mavs cut Finley.

I actaully Gooden is a much better fit then KVH. Atleast Gooden is tenacious on the glass and can run the floor well with the Dallas style offense. Their both bad defenders but amazinlgy enough I trust Van Horn less then I do Gooden in any pressure situation
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The big reason is his contract would expire letting you guys save some more money along when the Mavs cut Finley.

I actaully Gooden is a much better fit then KVH. Atleast Gooden is tenacious on the glass and can run the floor well with the Dallas style offense. Their both bad defenders but amazinlgy enough I trust Van Horn less then I do Gooden in any pressure situation
Terry's contract only goes one more year after Gooden's and KVH is already an expiring contract. We don't need any more bad defenders. Avery Johnson is looking for good defenders.

Gooden fitting in better with the Mavericks is questionable.

And sorry but saying that Gooden is better in pressure situations is pulled completely out of thin air. In fact Van Horn has been a major player on a team that made it to the NBA finals. What exactly has Gooden done under pressure?
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Van Horn's team promplty dumped him after his disastrous playoff performance. KVH plays like a scared puppy in any pressure situation I've ever seen in him so I basically gave to Gooden by default.

Gooden a real PF and I would take him over KVH who is just a much worse version of Dirk. But hey that's just me.
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