CLEVELAND (TICKER) -- Center Zydrunas Ilgauskas will officially re-sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers on Tuesday.
The team has scheduled a news conference for 2:30 p.m. EDT.
According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Ilgauskas agreed to a five-year deal worth up to $60 million two months ago, but the team never announced the agreement.
The Cavaliers made three major offseason additions, signing guards Larry Hughes and Damon Jones and forward Donyell Marshall as free agents.
The 30-year-old Ilgauskas, who has played all seven of his seasons with Cleveland, averaged 16.9 points and 8.6 rebounds in 78 games last season. He led the NBA with 299 offensive rebounds, ranked sixth with 165 blocks and was selected to the Eastern Conference All-Star team for the second time in three years.
After suffering through myriad foot injuries early in his career, the 7-3, 260-pounder has been a constant presence in the middle for the Cavaliers. Ilgauskas has missed just six games over the last three seasons and has increased his minutes in each campaign.
In 413 career games, the Lithuania native has averaged 14.9 points and 7.7 rebounds.
The clip from the conference is up on the main page at nba.com if you want to watch it. Here's my brief summary of it:
Ferry opened with a funny story about Zydrunas asking if they had to hold a press conference to announce his re-signing and if there had to be one, not to make it a big deal. It was a nice, light-hearted moment. Coach Brown made a few brief comments and the microphone went to Zydrunas Ilgauskas.
Ilgauskas said Cleveland has become a home to him and his family. He said from a basketball standpoint, it would have been hard to leave Cleveland because if he went somewhere else, he’d be checking the scores to keep tabs on how Cleveland was doing. Zydrunas feels good about the improved roster as well.
Cub Cadet (lawn equipment company) has joined with the Cleveland Cavaliers organization (multi-year deal) and in the course of the conference, Ilgauskas was given the “Z” as a gift (a tractor).
Ferry took the microphone again and a question-and-answer period began. Ilgauskas said being on a winning team at this point in his career was a big factor in his decision. He wants to win and believes the Cavaliers are a winning team moving in the right direction. Ferry was asked about Jay Williams and what he thought about Williams' comeback. Ferry said he is excited seeing Jay try to play basketball again but said he wasn’t ready to play in the NBA right now. But Ferry said he will keep an eye on Jay's progress, like all the other teams in the league will.
The question-and-answer period ended and Ferrry wrapped things up by saying he hopes the Cavaliers can become a great Ohio story (like Cub Cadet).
VALLEY CITY, OHIO - When Zydrunas Ilgauskas first arrived in Cleveland from Lithuania all he could think of was home. When it came to his first summer of free agency, all he could think of was Cleveland as home.
Ilgauskas signed a five-year, $53 million contract to remain with the Cavaliers on Tuesday.
Ilgauskas agreed to the deal back in July, but waited until now to sign it because it gave the Cavs salary-cap advantages when signing other free agents.
For the Cavs, it meant keeping a two-time All-Star who has been healthy for five years and is in the prime of his career. For Ilgauskas, it gave him long-term security and kept him in his American home.
"When push came to shove, I just had a hard time realizing being anywhere but in a Cavs uniform,'' Ilgauskas said at a news conference at Cub Cadet headquarters. "It has become home to me and my family.''
When Ilgauskas left Gund Arena the day after last season ended, the vibes were strong that he'd played his last game with the Cavs. Things started to turn around when Mike Brown was hired as coach and told ownership he'd like to have Ilgauskas re-signed.
Then Danny Ferry, one of Ilgauskas' good friends, was hired as the general manager and he, too, wanted Z back.
"From Day One I wanted Z here,'' Brown said. "He's going to be the anchor of our defense, an anchor of our offense.''
Ferry talked Ilgauskas and his agent, Herb Rudoy, into taking a $5 million cut in pay this season. Ilgauskas, completing a six-year, $70.8 million deal, made $14.6 million last season but starts his new contract at approximately $9.2 million.
But Ferry gave Ilgauskas a five-year deal, two years longer than the Cavs' original offer. The two sides worked through the complex insurance issues with his feet and an accord was struck.
By the end of the deal, Gordon Gund and Dan Gilbert will have paid Ilgauskas more than $125 million in 14 years.
"At the end of the season, I knew there was a good chance I wouldn't be back. We didn't have a coach or a general manager,'' said Ilgauskas, who averaged 16.9 points and 8.6 rebounds in making his second All-Star team. "If I didn't feel like this team was going to win, I wouldn't care if my dad owned the team, I wasn't going to stay.
"Now when I talk to LeBron (James), we can't wait for training camp to start.''
With new weapons around him, namely Larry Hughes and Damon Jones, Ilgauskas' enthusiasm about his team has never been higher.
"When I first came to Cleveland I was a scared kid, 20 years old and if somebody would've given me the chance I would've gone back the same day,'' he said. "Hasn't been a lot of moments to cheer in the last nine years I've been here but I want to be part of this new beginning.''
Henderson next
The Cavaliers are out of salary-cap room but can still sign players to minimum contracts. They are expected to sign forward/center Alan Henderson, who averaged 3.5 points and 4.5 rebounds in 72 games for the Dallas Mavericks last season, to a $1,138,500 one-year deal. Henderson avoided jail time Monday when he pleaded to a lessor charge stemming from an arrest in July when he brought a gun to JFK Airport. Henderson, 32, will perform 10 days' community service and pay a $500 fine.
Assistants hired
The Cavs officially hired Michael Malone and Melvin Hunt as assistant coaches Tuesday. Malone, the son of former Cavs interim head coach Brendan Malone, spent the past four seasons with the New York Knicks. Hunt was an assistant with the Los Angeles Lakers last season and also was an assistant with the Houston Rockets. They will join lead assistant Hank Egan, who was hired in June, on Brown's staff.
When Danny Ferry took over as Cavaliers GM, he said one of his highest priorities was re-signing All-Star center Zydrunas Ilgauskas, and he did just that. The large Lithuanian is the Cavaliers last link to their playoff past and will certainly be part of their playoff future.
We offered fans a chance to write in to our Player Mailbox and ask Z whatever's on your mind. Z answered questions ranging from his tutelege of his young protege, Martynas Andriuskevicius to what he does in his spare time. Enjoy!
First Name: Zilvinas P. City: Cleveland State: Ohio Comments: I have two questions; when or ever you are going to play for Lithuania In Olympics and did you or do you ever visit the Large Lithuanian Community that is in Cleveland?
Z: Well, I’ve been to the community a few times. I never call on purpose; I just show up. I live her during the season and during the summer, I’m in and out. During the season, it’s hard. I live on the west side and my schedule gets really busy and you get caught up in the everyday things, so hopefully in the future I’ll have time to get up there, because the first few times I really enjoyed it.
As far as the (Lithuanian) national team, it’s really not up to me. Insurance questions – with this new contract I don’t think a lot of insurance companies would cover my feet. There are really a lot of issues with insurance. And just my health; you know, I’ve been healthy, I’ve stuck to my regimen this year and for the last four years and I’ve been healthy (knock on wood). So I don’t want to mess with it, but also you never say never. It’s something every basketball player wants to do and like I said, I haven’t put a clock on it, but my concern right now is with the Cavs.
I don’t know if my body can handle year-round basketball and it really wouldn’t be fair to the Cavs if I played for the national team and came back and broke down. So I’m afraid of that, especially considering all the injuries I’ve had.
First Name: Quentin City: Cleveland State: OH Comments: I heard that (Danny) Ferry played a practical joke on you your rookie year? What was it and how did you get him back?
Z: The one joke that we had, it was me and Vitaly (Potapenko), Danny came back after his knee surgery into the Clinic and me and Vitaly broke his crutches in half and let the air out of the tires on his car. So he couldn’t get to the airport with no crutches and no car.
And the way he got me back, one day my parents were supposed to fly into town and I went to get them from the airport and when we came back downtown to my place and while I was gone he broke into my place and put all my furniture and all my clothes and my TV into the bathroom and into the bath tub. It looked like either someone had robbed me or that no one lived there.
But it wasn’t a pretty sight when you bring your parents in for a visit.
First Name: Indre City: Kaunas State: Lithuania
Comments: Labas! How are you doing? My question is what else are you interesting besides basketball? What do you like to do in your free time, what are your other hobbies? (If you have a free time.) thanx! Take care and All the BEST!
Z: I like going to the movies. I like reading books. A lot of times, I'll just sit around watching TV. (I'm hooked on FOXNews and CNN.) I'm more of a homebody. Being a professional athlete, you're always in the public eye and when you have free time you like to get away and spend time with your family and just get away.
I play golf in the summer, but not much anymore. I gave up. I gave it my best shot.
First Name: Kyle City: Medina State: Ohio Comments: How old were you when you could first dunk, and how tall were you at the time?
Z: Hmm. I was 15 years old. It wasn’t because of my athletic ability, it was only because of my height. It was a great feeling. I wanted to do it all day long.
First Name: Douglar City: Cleveland State: OH Comments: What advice are you giving Martynas Andriuskevicius?
Z: Right now I’m trying not to burden him too much because it’s a new country and a new culture and he needs to settle in. I know what I went through trying to find a place to live, trying to find a car and learning your way around. So if he asks, I’ll give him advice, but I try not to burden him too much.
He’s young – 19 years old – but he’s not five, so I’d rather be more a friend than a father. He came to me a few times and we’ve talked. Mostly about the chances of two kids from the same high school playing on the Cavs.
First Name: Derrick City: Winnipeg State: Canada Comments: How is it playing against Shaq? And how does it compare to anybody in the league?
Z: Playing against Shaq is like pushing against a concrete wall. There’s nobody like him. In all my years in the NBA, I’ve never run into someone who is such a physical specimen. I’ve never seen anyone close to him. He’s got the perfect combination of power, speed and agility.
First Name: Wayne City: Cleveland State: Ohio Comments: Z, are your parents as tall as you are? Or did you just spring up some how?
Z: My parents are a little bit taller than average. My dad’s about 6-6, my mom’s about 5-10 and my sister is about 5-10, but nobody in the family is like me. My dad comes from a family with 11 kids, so I have a ton of cousins, but nobody like me. I got lucky, I guess.
First Name: Dave City: Euclid State: OH Comments: Did it hurt when your best friend Sarunas decided not to sign with the Cavs because he felt another team had a better chance of winning?
Z: I was disappointed a little bit. Not in his decision, but because we weren’t going to able to play together. We were best friends since we were six years old. He was the best man in my wedding. Our friendship goes far beyond basketball. Basketball is just something that we do at the same time.
First of all, I was just glad that he was coming to the NBA, because I knew he always had the skills but the opportunity never presented itself. He became a great player in Europe and I wish him well.
Did I want him as a teammate with the Cavaliers? Absolutely. But it was Sarunas’ decision and you have to respect that.
First Name: David City: Bethesda State: Maryland Comments: How was the experience of having to move to the states to play in the NBA?
Z: I had a lot of struggles at first. It was the first time away from my family and friends. I didn’t know the language that well. Right from the start I got hurt, so I couldn’t even play basketball. I was doing rehab by myself. It wasn’t easy but I had a lot of good people around me – whether it was teammates or just friends that I found or people within the organization.
I had some bad and good times, but things have been pretty good lately.
Big Z is such a vital part of this team. Having a big men with his skills is extremely rare at his size and it's good that he's still young enough where the Cavs' window will last several years, barring freak injury or that old foot problem.
CLEVELAND - Zydrunas Ilgauskas used to view season openers like plane landings: If he walked away, he was happy.
Nearly five years removed from his debilitating foot injuries, the Cavaliers center has become more of a sage. He's married, has a new dog and is comfortable at the start of a rich five-year contract. In other words, he has his health, money and a best friend.
His contentment is only stunted by the fact he hasn't been to the playoffs since he was a rookie, which is what he's really thinking about as the Cavs head into their opener Wednesday night against the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets at Quicken Loans Arena.
“When I was young, the opener seemed like the end of the world to me,” Ilgauskas said. “Two hours later it was over and it was like, OK, now there's six more months to go. So, for me, the anxiety is gone, but I think it is more intense.''
Even though he made the All-Star team last season, it was rocky for the big Lithuanian. The owner that he became very close to, Gordon Gund, sold the team. The coach was fired. What he thought was a sure playoff season wasted away. He went through a nasty finger injury that forced him to play the last month of the season in almost never-ending pain. Then he headed to free agency thinking that there was a strong chance that he'd be playing elsewhere this season.
“Last year there wasn't much fun,'' Ilgauskas said. “We took a nose dive. I knew that this team was going to be on the rise. I knew that even though we didn't get it done last year that there are good things coming and I thought it sucked that I might have to go somewhere else.
“I told myself I've been through too many bad times not to be here for this.''
Then Danny Ferry, a friend from his playing days, was hired as the general manager. Ferry, owner Dan Gilbert and new coach Mike Brown reached out to him and he agreed to take a $5 million dollar paycut this season in exchange for staying in Cleveland and getting a five-year deal.
Ilgauskas showed up at training camp ready to go and performed like a player in his prime. He was the only Cav to start all eight preseason games. He averaged 14.5 points, 5.9 rebounds and shot 54 percent from the floor.
Ilgauskas knows that he'll be asked to do different things this season. First, with new offensive weapons around him, he needs to pass out of the double teams that come his way. In the past he's often just tried to force things.
The second is to defend the pick-and-roll better. He's often a target on defense as teams try to draw him away from the basket and take advantage of his lack of foot speed. In the preseason, he's shown improved technique.
“We have new faces, and those guys are going to determine how good we are going to be,'' Ilgauskas said. “In the past, I felt like if I had a bad game we didn't have a chance to win. That isn't the case anymore.''
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Zydrunas Ilgauskas is richly rewarded for his height and talents, but there are still life's issues. One key issue for the Cavaliers center is regular sleep.
The season has started again, and so have Ilgauskas' bouts of insomnia. It was a problem that first cropped up at the start of last season and something he might have to deal with in spurts for the rest of his playing career.
He has it under control and treats it with medication when needed, but there are still rough patches.
“I slept just fine in the offseason,'' he said. “I guess it is just the traveling during the season that gets me.''
It started last season, when the Cavs had a harsh road trip to start the year, a double-overtime home game followed by a three-hour flight to Miami that didn't get the Cavs to their hotel until after 3 a.m.
The night after the Miami game, he wasn't able to fall asleep at all. Then the team had a practice and another three-hour flight to Milwaukee. He scored just nine points against the Bucks.
He eventually overcame it, going on to appear in his second All-Star Game.
“It is one of those things I have to deal with,'' Ilgauskas said. “The pills work when I have a problem.''
RECORD RUN -- LeBron James started Tuesday night with 4,016 career points, being the youngest player to reach that plateau. He'll likely be the youngest to reach 5,000 and beyond. What might be more impressive, though, is breaking the Cavs' career scoring record before his 24th birthday.
Averaging 22.4 points in 167 career games, James is on schedule to break Brad Daugherty's team scoring record of 10,389 points around the spring of 2009. Barring significant injury or -- gasp -- free-agent defection, James is on pace to do it in 464 games. Daugherty played 548 games.
DRIBBLES -- Heading into Tuesday night's game, Donyell Marshall had the highest rebounding average (8.9) of any nonstarter in the NBA.... Wizards coach Eddie Jordan was a second-round pick of the Cavs in 1977.... Luke Jackson got a rare haircut. Said Jackson: "I did it to become more aerodynamic.''
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Cavaliers need to remember their All-Star center can help when the revamped offense is struggling
By Brian Windhorst
The Cavaliers have an All-Star center.
Even casual fans know this. Considering they just signed him to a $50 million contract, you can bet the Cavs know it, too.
So it is hard to fathom how sometimes Zydrunas Ilgauskas is forgotten.
There's no denying the Cavs have a potent offense; when they're running and gunning with their vast array of weapons, they are the best in the NBA. LeBron James is often unstoppable going to the hole, Larry Hughes can score from anywhere and Damon Jones' and Donyell Marshall's shooting add an entire new element.
Coach Mike Brown's decision to sit Ilgauskas and go with a smaller and quicker lineup for stretches is well-founded. Reducing Ilgauskas' minutes from their record highs of last season is also prudent.
But it seems as if when they need him the most, the Cavs too often forget they have such a talent as the 7-foot-3 Lithuanian. Their offense struggles when they face a team that slows the game down and makes them execute in halfcourt sets, an obvious issue since day one.
The teams that are best at this are the best in the league, notably Detroit, Indiana and San Antonio. This has been obvious in the Cavs' blowout losses against the Pacers and Spurs as they've wheezed offensively when their driving lanes and fastbreak points were taken away.
This is why having a skilled center is valuable, but the Cavs thus far are under-using Ilgauskas in these moments. In their first three losses, Big Z has averaged just eight points.
There are circumstances surrounding that stat, but it makes a point. In last week's loss at Indiana, there didn't appear to be enough of an effort to get Z involved even when it was clear that Hughes, because of sickness, and James, because of Ron Artest, weren't going to be able to get it done.
Ilgauskas is guilty of not passing out of double-teams and letting the offense stagnate. In traffic, sometimes he attempts to draw fouls or get a shot up and try to get the offensive rebound instead of looking for a teammate. He averages less than one assist per game. He even admits he needs to see the floor better. That is his end of the deal.
With his length, shooting touch, free-throw accuracy and back to the basket ability, Ilgauskas is probably the second-best offensive pure center in the NBA after Shaquille O'Neal. The Cavs' end of the deal is to remember that he's there, especially when the going gets tough.
Dribbles
• One of the ways to upset the rest of your teammates is to dribble the ball too much, which is what has driven some of Steve Francis' and Stephon Marbury's mates batty. So pick your spots, but according to a few scouts, James would do well to keep his dribble more. James has gotten better at going to the basket and at free-throw shooting, which is why he's off to such a good start.
Sometimes, though, he picks up his dribble and looks to pass when he doesn't see a lane. Trained observers suggest he look to keep his dribble and be more patient when looking to go to the basket.
• He's a great defender and he's from Cleveland, but don't expect the Cavs to pursue Ruben Patterson, whose time in Portland is at an end. He might be the kind of player the Cavs want, but insiders say management considers chemistry as much as talent, and Patterson doesn't pass.
• The little flap created this week when the Cavs asked the Seattle SuperSonics to stop using Brendan Malone as a consultant really isn't Malone's fault. All Malone wants to do in life is coach; he wasn't looking to get over on anyone. The Sonics operate on a tight budget and if they had the money, they probably would have hired Malone as a full-time assistant coach. There are no hard feelings from the Cavs over it. In fact, they might use Malone to do some scouting work for them this season.
• The Cavs spent $40,000 on their player introductions presentation, complete with fireworks and smoke and fire machines. But it caused too much smoke and ash, which bothered players, so it was gutted. Now, fans sit quietly while watching a video in the dark that is way too long, and then they have to be told to stand up when the players are introduced. Here's a friendly tip: It is too bad all the bells and whistles didn't work out, but go back and watch how the Chicago Bulls were introduced in the 1990s. Skip the video and the disco ball, shorten it up and put the focus on the player not the scoreboard.
• James doesn't get enough credit for how much he gives to charity. He spent a few hundred thousand on Hurricane Katrina relief, and last week he gave away no less than 1,200 turkeys in Cleveland and Akron.
• The Cavs debuted their new navy jerseys Saturday. After they had a gold jersey last season, talks are under way to release all wine and all orange throwback jerseys in future years. The LeBron fan in your life can have a James jersey rainbow.
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CLEVELAND (AP) -- Cavaliers center Zydrunas Ilgauskas has a sprained right knee but is expected to play Tuesday night against Atlanta.
Ilgauskas did not practice Monday and was listed as day-to-day. Cavaliers coach Mike Brown said he was confident that Ilgauskas would play against the Hawks.
He sprained the knee in Cleveland's 111-106 loss to Milwaukee on Saturday. The former All-Star scored 20 points in the loss and is averaging 15 points and 7.5 rebounds this season.
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He might need surgery at some point, if he can't play through pain
By Brian Windhorst
Beacon Journal sportswriter
CLEVELAND - The next few days are going to be important when it comes to the future of Zydrunas Ilgauskas.
The Cavaliers are going to be very closely monitoring how Ilgauskas' ailing right knee reacts to the regular pounding of the season. Ilgauskas missed Tuesday's game with the Atlanta Hawks after the knee swelled up over the weekend.
Ilgauskas could be able to play through it, but it might cause him to miss more games as the season goes on.
He underwent an MRI exam, which revealed no damage to the major ligaments but some wearing and minor tearing on the cartilage in the knee. Team doctors have described this as “athlete's knee,'' a condition that might require surgery at some point.
Ilgauskas can't damage it further by playing, as he did against the Denver Nuggets on Thursday, but how it reacts after games could determine what must be done about it. He might be able to play through the soreness and pain, as he has for other injuries in his career. If he experiences the sort of swelling and soreness he did after playing on it in Milwaukee, this could become more serious.
If that is the case, either the Cavs will have to scale back on his minutes and perhaps sit him on the second night of back-to-backs. Or there might be other options, including surgery, though all parties are trying to avoid it.
"We'll cross that bridge when we come to it,'' Ilgauskas said. “I'm going to have to see how it reacts to playing and treatment.''
Cavs coach Mike Brown said the team will have to “maintain'' Ilgauskas, which means giving him extra time off until they see how the injury proceeds. That could mean reducing his minutes and keeping him off the practice floor at times, a tactic the team used when bringing him back from his foot surgeries.
Just how much might have a significant impact on the rest of the Cavs' season.
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Some statistical criterion can be deceiving. Lebron has a shooting stroke comparable to Chuck Hayes, he looks like a 20%ish three point shooter to me. 32% beyond the arc means he's stepping into Mike Miller and/or Stephen Jacksons territory, which we all know is far from the truth.
• Heading into Saturday's game, Zydrunas Ilgauskas had made 63 of his past 68 free throws and, for the season, was shooting a career-best 88 percent at the line. The only starting center better at the line, thus far, is P.J. Brown of the New Orleans Hornets, who has taken 50 fewer free throws. Ilgauskas credits his success to a technique that the Cavs tried to teach him four years ago to improve his jumper, wanting him to get his hand more under the ball. He didn't like it on jump shots and junked it, but he uses it on free throws, and it has helped his percentage jump from the low-to-mid 60s when he first came to the league.
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Beacon Journal | 11/27/2005 | When the going gets tough, don't forget Z
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