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CHKNWANG321 · 02-25-2006, 06:58 AM

I wouldnt have booed him. I wouldve yelled, "Dribble and stop leaning back lebron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Larry Hughes for Retirement · 02-25-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Morongk22

And as for the booing of Lebron....i see no problem with it. He's a PRO athlete making millions, and if he misses 7 straight free throws...including 2 that probly changed the outcome of the game he should get booed. No one is immune to getting booed, especialy in a city like Cleveland, where the fans have seen many teams come seconds from making Championship games and watching their teams fall apart down the stretch, and if Lebron can't handle it then he should get back in the gym and work on that free throw shot.

I see nothing fair-weather about booing someone who chokes that bad from the line in the 4th quarter.

Actually I would have to agree. If in my line of profession or anyones, If i had a really bad day and it costed the company I would expect the person that pays my salary to let me know about it. Well you know what, the fans pretty much pay the salaries of the players. If your going to make 20-100 times as much money as I make and I am paying to come and watch you do your job. You better do it too your best abilitity, or atlest try too.

Lebron has been lifted onto the shoulders of the NBA, and carried around like a King. Do you think he has ever been hated before, or booed from his own fans on lack of performance. This is just something he will have to get used too. If you go out their and dont perform as a team too your level of performance i would expect fans too boo. Their not tossing money around out their for their sheer enjoyment, they want too see a finished product that produces. And its not booing lebron its boo'ing the whole product.

**DQ for 3** · 02-25-2006, 10:47 AM

If my star player went 0-8 from the line and pretty much didnt show up in the 2nd half, during a loss, I would also boo him...and expect the home crowd to do the same....

If LeBron is a "great" player, he'll show up tomorrow against the Pistons...great players have bad games, but never 2 in a row. (I think MJ said that)

**Unique** · 02-25-2006, 10:49 AM

Try having Kwame on your team!

**Pioneer10** · 02-25-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaq_Diesel

If my star player went 0-8 from the line and pretty much didnt show up in the 2nd half, during a loss, I would also boo him...and expect the home crowd to do the same....

If LeBron is a "great" player, he'll show up tomorrow against the Pistons...great players have bad games, but never 2 in a row. (I think MJ said that)

Why the asterisks around great? That's just silly, Lebron by any stretch is a great player regardless of what he does on Sunday

Morongk22 · 02-25-2006, 11:06 AM

^If Lebron doesn't put this team on his shoulders in the next couple games and help them win a couple of these next 5 or so games...I really wouldn't be suprised if the wheels start falling off like they did this time last season. I'm pretty sure we are only 5 or so games ahead of Phily @ the 8 seed and we can't afford to go .500 the rest of the season if we want a decent seed or even a spot in the playoffs. I'm just really pessimistic right now cause this could be the third cleveland team in 2 years to choke in the final stretch of the season.

CHKNWANG321 · 02-25-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lakermike05

Try having Kwame on your team!

wtf?

**Benedict_Boozer** · 02-25-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LBJ to LJ for 3

Actually I would have to agree. If in my line of profession or anyones, If i had a really bad day and it costed the company I would expect the person that pays my salary to let me know about it. Well you know what, the fans pretty much pay the salaries of the players. If your going to make 20-100 times as much money as I make and I am paying to come and watch you do your job. You better do it too your best abilitity, or atlest try too.

Lebron has been lifted onto the shoulders of the NBA, and carried around like a King. Do you think he has ever been hated before, or booed from his own fans on lack of performance. This is just something he will have to get used too. If you go out their and dont perform as a team too your level of performance i would expect fans too boo. Their not tossing money around out their for their sheer enjoyment, they want too see a finished product that produces. And its not booing lebron its boo'ing the whole product.

The thing about this is, Lebron is not being paid jack by Cavs relative to his market value right now.

I don't feel like crunching the numbers, but suffice to say he has more than earned his salary just on the sheer increase of revenue from ticket sales, jerseys, television deals, etc. The "fans buy his salary" argument doesn't really fit with LBJ in this instance IMO because he is generating a heck of alot more than he is being paid.

I just disagree with it....it would be one thing to boo if Lebron was not giving 100%, but he is pretty much the only consistent player on our team night in night out, especially on the road. How many times has he saved our butts in games? He has one bad half and the fans turn on him? C'mon...if they had cheered him on perhaps it would have lifted his spirits and knocked down some of those FTs - it's obvious that he feeds off the crowd energy.

I just don't see Lebron as one of those who responds positively to negativity by the fans....it certainly didn't help DJ and it seems stupid to me to unecessarily piss off Lebron right before he signs a contract extension.

**DQ for 3** · 02-25-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pioneer10

Why the asterisks around great? That's just silly, Lebron by any stretch is a great player regardless of what he does on Sunday

those are actually referred to as "quotation marks", but all i said was a line that i took from MJ.

**remy23** · 02-25-2006, 12:06 PM

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How many times has he saved our butts in games? He has one bad half and the fans turn on him? C'mon...if they had cheered him on perhaps it would have lifted his spirits and knocked down some of those FTs - it's obvious that he feeds off the crowd energy.

Exactly. If you can't feed your star player energy, then what exactly are you even doing in the stands? I suppose merely watching the game in that case but you could have stayed home and done that. Imagine if next year Ohio States' fans failed/refused to give Oden energy. Or imagine other Ohio cities not stepping up for their stars. I can't even imagine those scenarios, not even in the hypothetical case. But with Cleveland, we're watching this happen. I still can't fathom it. The nights the crowd cheers loud, LeBron puts on a show and not just his seasonal averages, something beyond those numbers. And the fans still haven't put 2 and 2 together to get 4 and decide to cheer for him like that more often? Argh!!!!

Larry Hughes for Retirement · 02-25-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Benedict_Boozer

I just disagree with it....it would be one thing to boo if Lebron was not giving 100%, but he is pretty much the only consistent player on our team night in night out, especially on the road. How many times has he saved our butts in games? He has one bad half and the fans turn on him? C'mon...if they had cheered him on perhaps it would have lifted his spirits and knocked down some of those FTs - it's obvious that he feeds off the crowd energy..

I didnt say we should boo LEBRON. It was the product of the team in the 2nd half. We were booing the Cavaliers and coach. You dont have a 3 point lead and turn the ball over 3 times in a row given the Wizards chances to score. You dont have DJ out their when we need a defensive stop. Everything out their should have been booed, it wasnt Lebron. But it did not help that he was 0-7 at the line in the forth.

If Lebron goes 2-22 from the field i would not expect anyone to boo him. But a free throw, those are what we call "FREE" points. These are professional and if you hit 75% of those he shoulda atleast hit 3-4 of them down sthe stretch. Which in fact woulda had us up even more and not pressing as much as we were in the end.

As I've said in the past, it upsets me when Professionals athelete take things for granted, its not very hard to concentrate and hit a set shot with no on in your face from the line. I am not saying i coulda went 7 for 7. But 0-7 is un called for. Lebron or Ira Newble i dont care who it is at the line. If that was "marty" at the line going 0-7 in the final 3 minutes i would expect him to get booed.

Larry Hughes for Retirement · 02-25-2006, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by remy23

Exactly. If you can't feed your star player energy, then what exactly are you even doing in the stands? I suppose merely watching the game in that case but you could have stayed home and done that. Imagine if next year Ohio States' fans failed/refused to give Oden energy. Or imagine other Ohio cities not stepping up for their stars. I can't even imagine those scenarios, not even in the hypothetical case. But with Cleveland, we're watching this happen. I still can't fathom it. The nights the crowd cheers loud, LeBron puts on a show and not just his seasonal averages, something beyond those numbers. And the fans still haven't put 2 and 2 together to get 4 and decide to cheer for him like that more often? Argh!!!!

I respect your post alot on this board but this one has to question, are you truely a 'cleveland fan'. Have you never been to a Cleveland Browns game. If trent dilfer and co. go 3 and out the first couple times, and its a ugly game going into halftime, what do the 'cleveland' fans do. " BOOOOOOOOOO"

Like everyone says other team fans would never boo, but if other teams fans are selling out their games, usually their teams are good. And if they currrently arent good they have atleast had something to cheer for in the past (championships, playoffs...etc). Cleveland fans have seen this happen all to many times before. Put everything into a certain team only to watch them disappoint. I bet it wasnt just the 0-7 from the line, it was the fact it was against the Wiz we had the game, and it was at home, and we seen this happen far to many times before.

You cant compare Ohio State teams too our professional teams. Those kids arent getting paid, they are out there playing for the love of the game. Exactly why alot of people say college sports are better than professional. You see the kids slap the floor, play defense, get the crowed pumped up. Students going crazy. Because its all for the love of basketball/football, because if you look at the OSU basketball team or any college team at that maybe 2-3 of the Kids will get a chance to play in the Pro's.

So comparing OSU teams to Cleveland teams is unfair...

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