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The MAMBA · 04-28-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by futuristxen

That flop earlier by Arenas was pretty pathetic. Where he came out and dove into Andy's nutsack head first. And then fell to the floor. That should have been a turnover on Arenas, not two shots.

True.

The MAMBA · 04-28-2006, 08:50 PM

I feel so bad for Houston Texan fans... GM should be fired.

**cima** · 04-28-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGodfather

yeah right...winning game 4 is as good as series is over!a must win!Go Cavs Go Bron!

Tell that to T-Mac.

The MAMBA · 04-28-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CiMa

Tell that to T-Mac.

T-Mac has a lazy eye that thinks it can tell the future. Don't con't T-Mac in the same breath as The King.

**Pioneer10** · 04-28-2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LightsOutShooter

Wow, are you serious? Lebron took 4 steps on that last bucket. The drop step, which is two, and then two more steps to get past Daniels. That is traveling, and the referees acted like it didn't happen. I have a pet peeve for referees not doing their jobs in close games, and they definitely took a blind eye to that obvious infraction on the rules.

Arenas flopped and got a call.
Z had a shot "blocked" shot that was clearly a goal tend.

The Last game 2 of Lebron's "charges" were clearly blocks.

Bad calls go both ways. Looking at the replay of that last Lebron shot it was close to a travel but it's not as clear cut as people are making it out to be

**Benedict_Boozer** · 04-28-2006, 09:52 PM

Man I went out, came back and watched the 4th quarter (TIVO) and OH MAN WAS THAT A SWEET FINISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

King James making a name for himself! I'm literally speechless

**Benedict_Boozer** · 04-28-2006, 10:04 PM

By the way to add what Future was saying earlier in this thread, I don't want to hear any crying from Wiz fans about that game winner by Lebron (yes he did the hop step and up and under, but they didn't call the and-1 either)

AND the entire 4th quarter the Wizards were parading to the FT line like crazy. It was ridiculous, at one point there were 3 straight fouls called on one possession! Arenas dribbles around and throws his arms up = automatic foul. He was out of control a bunch of times and got EVERY call.

Hughes stepped up big time in that stretch with the game in the balance. Watching him do that gives me hope for our duo in the future, they are starting to develop chemistry.

LightsOutShooter · 04-28-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioneer10

Bad calls go both ways. Looking at the replay of that last Lebron shot it was close to a travel but it's not as clear cut as people are making it out to be

It was definitely as clear a travel as it can get. When you jump step, you can't take any more steps, you've already taken two. Usually, players jump step, then jump towards the hoop and shoot a floater or dunk. They never come back down with the ball, because that would be traveling, or they never take more steps.

Not only did Lebron do none of that, he didn't even dribble when he took the extra two steps. That is four steps, it was so blatant. I've noticed Lebron's penchant for traveling since the Olympics, when the international referees called him for it frequently when he drove to the hoop.

I'm not going to harp on it though, what's done is done. I'll be looking forward to Game 4.

**remy23** · 04-28-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LightsOutShooter

It was definitely as clear a travel as it can get. When you jump step, you can't take any more steps, you've already taken two. Usually, players jump step, then jump towards the hoop and shoot a floater or dunk. They never come back down with the ball, because that would be traveling, or they never take more steps.

Not only did Lebron do none of that, he didn't even dribble when he took the extra two steps. That is four steps, it was so blatant. I've noticed Lebron's penchant for traveling since the Olympics, when the international referees called him for it frequently when he drove to the hoop.

I'm not going to harp on it though, what's done is done. I'll be looking forward to Game 4.

I counted 3 steps. This 4 step business, I'd like somebody to post a slow moving gif file to settle this once and for all. Otherwise, mere words going back and forth won't prove constructive. A step was missed and an obvious foul was missed - consider it even. Or maybe not even, considering the stretch towards the end of the game was questionable (not just the last play).

SuperMascotRocky · 04-29-2006, 02:16 AM

One of the worst travels i've seen in my entire life. But the refs can't start calling them now. The NBA needs to change the rules and call travels. The players will stop doing it, they didn't travel in college but learned how to their rookie years. They can unlearn it. I hate to see a great ending tarnished because of a travel. It was an impessive lay-up but should have been called even giving the King 3 steps.

**remy23** · 04-29-2006, 02:26 AM

The more I look at the play, you could argue about a foul occurring as LeBron dribbled down the lane (hand check and/or two hands on a player), before the walk occurred and then an additional foul as LeBron was shooting. So if the play possibly contained two fouls in addition to the walk, and one of those fouls occurring before the walk, then what exactly should have been called? Either the no-call that wound up taking place or LeBron going to the line to shoot two. Since people wouldn't want foul shots determining a game, they swallowed the whistle and let the guys play.

futuristxen · 04-29-2006, 06:23 AM

Step of God maybe?

**Pioneer10** · 04-29-2006, 06:31 AM

Blah again people are playing up that play way too much just like they do all "clutch" plays. Lebron IMO got fouled before and after the walk. Things even out as Arenas flopped his way too 2 blocking fouls which were either a charge or non call.. The Wiz had more then there fair share of questionable or downright wrong calls go there way.

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