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Old 05-09-2006, 02:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2006-2007 Off Season | Summer League Thread

I dont know whether it is early or not, I thought it would be good to talk about some possible off season moves from now on. What should we do? Which players should we trade ? Which players should we sign ?
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Old 05-09-2006, 04:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 2006-2007 Off Season Thread

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Need a PG
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Re: 2006-2007 Off Season Thread

1. PG - push the ball, make open jumpers, defend the perimeter
~Drew sign & trade, Draft, FA (Banks, Terry, Barbosa)

2. Big man - someone who can block shots and defend the post
~Draft, FA (Nazr Mohammed?)

3. Bench scorer - need someone who can score consistently off the pine
~Resign Flip
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1. PG - push the ball, make open jumpers, defend the perimeter
~Drew sign & trade, Draft, FA (Banks, Terry, Barbosa)

2. Big man - someone who can block shots and defend the post
~Draft, FA (Nazr Mohammed?)

3. Bench scorer - need someone who can score consistently off the pine
~Resign Flip
Couldn't agree more...We really need a PG badly and I was thinking Terry or Barbosa, Banks doesn't allow us to spread the floor.
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Old 05-09-2006, 08:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 2006-2007 Off Season Thread

Devin Harris is looking good right now for Dallas: may give us an oppurtunity to get Terry
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Re: 2006-2007 Off Season Thread

Honestly guys, do you think we should try and move Hughes? Or give him next year?

I feel we should give him next year, but god is he looking terrible on the offensive end. He's doing fine on D, but we need him to score more, and not take so many jumpers.

What about Z?...
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Re: 2006-2007 Off Season Thread

His name is Barbosa. And he shall make us complete. Watching him in the playoffs, I'd give phoenix anybody on our roster with the exception of Lebron or Verejao or Hughes.

I think those 3 are our core for the next ten years. The only thing wrong with Hughes is his shooting right now. And considering he injured his shooting hand--that doesn't bother me much. He just needs to get confidence back in that hand. You see he doesn't like to dunk right now even.

But man. There's not a better fit at point guard in the league than Barbosa for the Cavs.

Another guy I wouldn't mind making a move for is Beno Udrih, if Barbosa falls through. I really like his game. But I would want the rights to Scola coming back with Udrih. Scola, Udrih, resign Flip and that'd be it. Draft smart(did Splitter withdraw his name yet? He seems like the Martynas of this draft).
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His name is Barbosa. And he shall make us complete. Watching him in the playoffs, I'd give phoenix anybody on our roster with the exception of Lebron or Verejao or Hughes.

I think those 3 are our core for the next ten years. The only thing wrong with Hughes is his shooting right now. And considering he injured his shooting hand--that doesn't bother me much. He just needs to get confidence back in that hand. You see he doesn't like to dunk right now even.

But man. There's not a better fit at point guard in the league than Barbosa for the Cavs.

Another guy I wouldn't mind making a move for is Beno Udrih, if Barbosa falls through. I really like his game. But I would want the rights to Scola coming back with Udrih. Scola, Udrih, resign Flip and that'd be it. Draft smart(did Splitter withdraw his name yet? He seems like the Martynas of this draft).
We probably could have got Barbaso for Gooden in the beginning of the year when Amare went down or in the middle of the year when K. thomas went down (this might have been passed the trade deadline) but not now.

Barbaso frankly looks better then Nash right now at times (i.e. Tony Parker of 2 years ago) and the Suns will be asking a lot. The only thing that could give us a shot is that they have 3 max contracts on the books in Amare, Marion, and Nash. Plus they have to resign T. Thomas possibly. This could open a door for a sign and trade but it is looking a lot bleaker. This should have been the trade that happened in the beginning of the year.
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I doubt Barbosa is going anywhere. If the Suns were to deal him, they would want Varejao at the very least. Besides AV (LeBron as well), there's nothing Phoenix cares for on Cleveland's roster.
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Can anyone figure out what salaries we'd need to dump to get Francis.

He ain't perfect but he'll likely be available for a fraction of what he is worth
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Can anyone figure out what salaries we'd need to dump to get Francis.

He ain't perfect but he'll likely be available for a fraction of what he is worth
Also interested in what we'd need to dump for Crawford (God I hate his game but his jumpshooting/penetration would be what we need in our PG and Larry Brown actually seemed to like him which says a whole lot)
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Re: 2006-2007 Off Season Thread

Honestly, the only untouchables on this roster (IMO) are Lebron and AV. Everyone else should be in consideration if we can nab a quality PG or big man.

Another alternative is to work a deal with Chicago for one of their PGs, and hopefully squeeze a 1st rounder out of them, possibly an '07 pick since we don't have one.
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I'm compiling a list of PG's that we might have a chance of acquiring

Ideal but unlikely (Ideal meaning instant contender for anyone on our roster not named Hughes, Lebron, and AV)
Barbaso
Terry (FA)

Less Ideal (Signficant improvement but not sure how much we'll improve - Crawford and James are probably the best of them for us)
Crawford
Francis
Marbury
Mike James (FA)
Brevin Knight
Anthony Johnson
Duhon

Draft (Getting Rondo or Lowry would be nice: both good fit for us)
M. Williams (Uconn) - going to go too high lotter
Rondo (Kentucky) - projected to in the teens
Kyle Lowry (Villanova) - may be within our range
Jordan Farmar (UCLA) - within our range: not a fan of his athleticism
Dee Brown (Illinios) - love his speed but his height and lack of a consistent jumpshot make him less then ideal