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06-20-2007, 06:25 PM
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Re: So What Now?
Even without JR Smith, I think that Hughes for KMart is a good fit for both teams.
And then, I'll try to work a three team deal:
Gooden to Sacramento
Maggette to Cleveland
Artest to Clippers
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06-20-2007, 07:43 PM
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Re: So What Now?
Ha, if we got Maggette we'd have the most physically imposing wings in the entire NBA.
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06-20-2007, 08:29 PM
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Re: So What Now?
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Even without JR Smith, I think that Hughes for KMart is a good fit for both teams.
And then, I'll try to work a three team deal:
Gooden to Sacramento
Maggette to Cleveland
Artest to Clippers
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I didn't even consider Maggette. He would complement Lebron well, good idea
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06-20-2007, 08:37 PM
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Re: So What Now?
Ferry makes an early move, targeting Andrey Blatche from the Wiz. He was a highschool draftee, a little raw but def huge upside. Could be a diamond in the rough from what i've seen of him (which admittedly isn't much). He has great size, lanky SF/PF combo player.
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Meantime, according to a league source, the Nets and Cavaliers are prepared to offer five-year contracts with a first-year salary of around $4 million to Wizards restricted free agent forward Andray Blatche when the free agency period opens July 1.
Should Blatche sign with another team, the Wizards would have seven days to match the offer and sources indicated yesterday that Grunfeld plans on keeping Blatche, who is entering his third season with the team.
Unless the Wizards clear space under the salary cap, they would have to use a chunk of their mid-level exception (a first-year salary starting around $5 million) to retain Blatche and that could hinder their ability to re-sign guard DeShawn Stevenson, who will opt out of his contract on July 1, or be active in the free agent market.
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06-20-2007, 09:03 PM
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Re: So What Now?
That's a lot of money for only a prospect: clearing the way for Gooden/AV deal?
Wasn't this guy involved in a carjacking or something?
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06-20-2007, 09:46 PM
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That's a lot of money for only a prospect: clearing the way for Gooden/AV deal?
Wasn't this guy involved in a carjacking or something?
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Getting Blatche would at the least mean AV or Sasha is gone. No way we can get all 3, but I would not mind signing the kid. If he turns out to be something, big steal, if not, cant be any worse than Marshall? 
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06-20-2007, 10:09 PM
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Getting Blatche would at the least mean AV or Sasha is gone. No way we can get all 3, but I would not mind signing the kid. If he turns out to be something, big steal, if not, cant be any worse than Marshall? 
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What you mean Blatche is a 3 point specialist who isn't good at shooting 3's?  Good point about Marshall: can't wait till we can dump his final year as an expiring contract
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06-21-2007, 12:37 AM
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Re: So What Now?
interesting...5 year deal with a first year salary at 4Mil? That's a bit much for something who is pretty unproven...
I agree he has huge upside but...signing him would be basically mean we're trading AV. And I'm not sure I'm feeling good about this.
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06-21-2007, 04:20 AM
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Eric Snow, Ira Newble's Expiring, and Damon Jones
For Randolph and Sergio Rodriguez
Works cap wise.
Nate McMillan probably likes a point guard like Snow, who is very much like how McMillan was as a player. The Blazers get cap relief. And Damon Jones gives them another shooter to put with Oden.
Meanwhile the Cavs get a point guard they should have drafted last year, and low post scoring. Then they can try and package Hughes and Gooden somewhere else.
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I actually don't think the Blazers would accept that. I imagine they could get more for Randolph, and I think they're high on Sergio.
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06-21-2007, 06:30 AM
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I actually don't think the Blazers would accept that. I imagine they could get more for Randolph, and I think they're high on Sergio.
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Yeah I agree I don't see Portland doing that deal either
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06-21-2007, 06:34 AM
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--There is a report in today's Washington Post that says the Cavs are considering offering a contract to Wizards restricted free agent prospect Andray Blatche. Blatche is very young (20), 6-foot-11, and has lots of talent. He's spent most of his first two years in the league sitting and watching, but his future is pretty bright. What I'm sure the Cavs like about him, whether they truly intend to offer him or not, is that he appears to be offensively gifted, especially as a shooter. I wrote a story about Blatche and how his rookie season was marred by a shooting for ESPN.com last summer. You can read it here (I think you need Insider, though).
While I think the Wizards would probably match just about any offer Blatche gets -- the Post said the Nets and Cavs may offer a five-year deals starting at around $4 million -- I think what you are seeing here is the Cavs working on contingency plans with Anderson Varejao. I think you'll hear more about it, too. By the way, as food for thought, the Wizards are believed to be one of the teams that would have interest in Varejao. So let your mind wander with all this on the table. Especially considering the Wizards are expected to bring last year's first-round pick, Oleksiy Pecherov, over from Europe this season. Pecherov, who I was impressed with at summer league last year, is a lot like Blatche. Not quite as athletic, but he's young, very big (6-10) and is a better shooter. Perhaps there isn't room for both Blatche and Pecherov, but there surely is room for Varejao in Washington. We'll see.
--Apparently New York Post rumor man Peter Vecsey has been saying the Cavs may go after Rashard Lewis. It would take a sign-and-trade with the Seattle Sonics. I will not rule anything out, because as I said before, expect the Cavs to be aggressive in trying to get offensive talent this summer. Also, looking at guys like Blatche and Lewis would follow the way the Cavs have built their team. They want "long" players who can play multiple positions. Again, this is why Earl Boykins is a long shot to me.
Whether or not this is a valid rumor or not, it reminds us of a point. Most NBA teams right now aren't in spending mode. Contracts are getting shorter by average and fewer teams want to use all of their mid-level exceptions. The Cavs, however, seem like they are willing to spend and that gives them a massive advantage. In the previous blog, I explained how they can creatively reduce other teams' payrolls with their current roster.
In the past, Ferry has used owner Dan Gilbert's checkbook to make cap-reducing deals with Billy King, who is a close friend. Helping King get the 76ers under the luxury tax line two years ago got the Cavs Daniel Gibson when they made a cap-absorbing deal for a draft pick at the deadline. Well, two teams looking to reduce costs are the Suns and Sonics. They both have new general managers (Sam Presti and Steve Kerr, respectively) and Ferry won NBA title rings with both of them and has good relations with each. Also, both are in the other conference, making a big deal more likely. So when it comes to Lewis or Shawn Marion rumors or any other Sonics or Suns cash-dumping moves, expect that the Cavs could be very much involved.
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06-21-2007, 08:05 AM
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Re: So What Now?
I think the Blatche offer is to either knock the Wizards out of the Verajao game, or force them to give us Blatche.
Isn't Blatche the guy who nearly killed ex-Cav Marty Vicious?
Also if the Wizards re-sign Blatche for that ammount, then not only are they probably out of the Varejao sweepstakes, they also may lose DeShawn Stevenson, who we might be able to also grab.
It's nice to have an owner who likes to spend.
If we can get Rashard Lewis this summer, then I would consider the summer a success. Provided of course Mike Brown hires an offensive coordinator so that we can actually use both Bron and Lewis.
If we get both Bron and Lewis, we should play this unit:
Gibson
Pavlovic
Lewis
Bron
Varejao/Gooden/Z
Play an aggressive trapping defense, and run teams off the floor.
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06-21-2007, 08:25 AM
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