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03-03-2008, 05:24 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
To hell with respect. At this point, who cares about it. It just makes it all the more sweeter if LeBron goes deep into the playoffs again. At this point, who gives a **** what those guys think. I stopped caring a long time ago and trust me, I'm better for it.
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03-03-2008, 05:31 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
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To hell with respect. At this point, who cares about it. It just makes it all the more sweeter if LeBron goes deep into the playoffs again. At this point, who gives a **** what those guys think. I stopped caring a long time ago and trust me, I'm better for it.
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Honestly, this is how most fans should be. You know your player is awesome; you don't need ESPN to let you know that.
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03-03-2008, 07:35 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
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To hell with respect. At this point, who cares about it. It just makes it all the more sweeter if LeBron goes deep into the playoffs again. At this point, who gives a **** what those guys think. I stopped caring a long time ago and trust me, I'm better for it.
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03-03-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
It is slightly unfortunate though that the media will have an influence on his legacy, like they do all players. I wouldn't shed a tear if ESPN shut down, or at least fired every last one of their writers and analysts.
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03-03-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
I disagree. I like the coverage because when I'm board at work, it would be nice to read an in depth analysis on the progression of my favorite player. Like whenever after I see Lebron do something great, or have an amazing game, I want to see impact. I want news coverage. Analysis. Discussion. I get so excited, and then I turn around and the only person talking is Skip Bayless.
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03-03-2008, 08:55 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
I despise ESPN to my very core. It's ruining the NBA.
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03-03-2008, 08:57 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
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I disagree. I like the coverage because when I'm board at work, it would be nice to read an in depth analysis on the progression of my favorite player. Like whenever after I see Lebron do something great, or have an amazing game, I want to see impact. I want news coverage. Analysis. Discussion. I get so excited, and then I turn around and the only person talking is Skip Bayless.
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Your basically looking for BW to go national
(Please note that is especially true because BW is NOT a homer, he'll call out a fault just as quickly as any other guy but what he calls actually makes sense)
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03-03-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
At least guys like BW anyway. Yeah maybe they're rare, but for the love of god, it's the newspaper's job to actually find someone who can get the job done competently. I know for a fact that there are a million great writers out there, but most of them won't be able to see the light of day because they don't have the right connections.
ESPN frankly is doing a complete disservice to the sports community with what they do. Essentially they've sold out their convictions to get ratings (read: money), and while everyone says you can't blame them for that, I disagree. I could make more money doing a lot of ****ty things that I'm against on principle, it doesn't mean I'm going to do it. ESPN should be ashamed that they've taken the integrity out of sports journalism (and this is just a general comment, not necessarily having anything to do with Lebron or even basketball in particular).
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03-03-2008, 09:28 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
Yeah ESPN has made a mockery of the notion of sports journalism being legit. How can it be when you've turned the interviews into Budweiser hot seats, and silver bullet minutes. It's ****ing bull****. Do you think Tom Brokaw would interview Kim Jong Il in a ****ing segment called the Budweiser Hot Seat on a set that looks like "Who Wants to Be a Millionare" leftovers?
Give me a break.
BW is a serious journalist working a field of idiots who think journalist means getting to hang out with your jock buddies and give each other circle jerks.
And then when they do get a story, like steroids, they pretend that it is the worst thing in the entire universe, and suddenly we're doing the OJ trial all over again. It's like one extreme to the other. Because they get so happy to put their serious pants on for a minute and pretend to be real news people.
We need like the BBC but for American Sports. Like dry, straight to the bone news. We need more guys like David Aldridge in front of the camera reporting the news without losing their dignity, and less guys like ****ing Stuart Scott.
I almost turned my TV off before the Cavs game even started because that cross eyed joke of a reporter kept saying "hundie" instead of one hundred. I feel like I'm watching a ****ing minstrel show when Stuart Scott is on the air. I know he must be smarter than how he pretends, because he pretends to be cool and hip and with it, and he's completely not. And yet he's the one runnning the NBA studio show.
You want to know why the NBA product has a bad rep? It's because of how ESPN covers it. We never get coverage like football and baseball do. And when we do get attention, it's people like Tim Legler that are our experts. Other sports they have hall of fame coaches and players offering insightful information, breaking down plays.
Not so anymore for the ESPN NBA product. It's completely dumbed down.
Do any of you remember when Dr. Jack Ramsay had a segment about basketball on the NBA where he actually broke down tape of the games instead of just running highlight reels?
Hubie Brown would LOVE to do that job. Just give him highlights and a telestrator and let him teach basketball.
ESPN is the worst ambassador for the sport. And their coverage of Lebron is just one example of how they are failing the sport, and us fans.
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03-03-2008, 10:20 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
Has to be because of what happened in the Finals last year, Lebron's performance during it and the fact that people who are on TV a lot say it was a fluke eg. Charles Barkley. Lebron is better now and he's just going to have to prove it again in the playoffs.
What annoys me is when people say Detroit are the clear favourite to come out of the East, when it's obvious that if they play Cleveland they are going to lose again.
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03-03-2008, 10:46 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
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Has to be because of what happened in the Finals last year, Lebron's performance during it and the fact that people who are on TV a lot say it was a fluke eg. Charles Barkley. Lebron is better now and he's just going to have to prove it again in the playoffs.
What annoys me is when people say Detroit are the clear favourite to come out of the East, when it's obvious that if they play Cleveland they are going to lose again.
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Who the hell is proclaiming Detroit as the clear favorite?
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03-03-2008, 11:04 PM
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Re: What does Lebron have to do for national respect?
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Who the hell is proclaiming Detroit as the clear favorite?
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I'm not saying anyone here, just the 'experts' that I hear on TV. Don't ask me who they are because I can barely remember what I did yesterday. 
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03-03-2008, 11:43 PM
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