futuristxen

He's a one man game changer now that he plays defense like he does.

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Dornado

Talk about a stupid premise for a thread.


No national respect for Lebron? I could have sworn that was him on Saturday Night Live... and that every time I turn on ESPN I see highlights of him in the first block... and that he is universally recognized as one of the biggest stars in sports...

I don't know, maybe its because my team hasn't had an all-star in a decade, but this whole thread seems laughable to me.

futuristxen

you've missed the nuanced point on the coverage. Quality not quantity.

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Brandname

Yeah, the thread title I don't think quite addresses the point, but it's more of a bigger problem with national sports coverage in general than anything. Lack of depth and accuracy.

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kflo

again, you guys are looking at this from a local fanboy standpoint. you want lebron on the throne unconditionally, and when you don't see it, it annoys you. it annoys you that people don't see what you see through the same lense you see it. believe me, lebron gets as much coverage as anyone in the freakin league with the exception of kobe, he gets lauded all the time, and he is a media darling. they love lebron, they just don't love him enough for your tastes. and they love (well, like as a basketball player) another guy as much, or more, a guy you think doesn't deserved to be loved as much or more. and yes, espn has alot of columnist guys who don't know alot and say aggravating things - but they do it about everyone, because they don't know alot! kobe, right now, probably gets more peer respect than anyone in the league because he's actually becoming a respected veteran, and younger guys pay their respects to him in the media, and the columnists just feed off of that and that helps shape their thinking. hey, lebron said kobe is the best, he must be the best. throwaway comments, but not necessarily wrong either. as for lebron not getting credit as one of the top 2 players in the league, believe me, it's the way it is. and shock of shocks, the media is slow to catch up on player improvements in certain areas. how shocking. lower your expectations, please. nothing here is unique at all.

futuristxen

Why is it useful for you to believe that the coverage on Lebron is good?
It's useful for me to believe that the coverage is bad because it serves my greater point to the complete farce that sports "journalism" has become. But I'm not sure why you are so vehement in saying that Lebron is getting good coverage?

Do you believe Kobe is adquetely analyzed by the sports media? I would say he isn't. They love him, but they don't know why. And are unable to explain it or demonstrate it to the casual sports fan without resorting to vague intangibles like "killer instinct" and "clutch".

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SPMJ

ESPN's biased timing is what annoys me most. We haven't seen a Kobe vs. LeBron poll on their website ALL SEASON. But as soon as Kobe drops 50+ on National TV and pulls off a close victory for his team...next day, there it is...Who's the best player in the NBA? Funny it didn't occur to 'em after LeBron shut him down in the 4th qtr and nailed the game sealing jumper in his face to pull off a great come from behind victory against LA abt a month ago.

The Kobe vs MJ BS also had a similar pattern. The polls only appeared when Kobe was on some high(the 40 point streak in 02-03, the 81 point game and 4 straight 50+ games last season). Thankfully he never won any of 'em.

Also, great point on how LeBron doesn't really have a "GUY" for him in the media. Kobe's got his share of detracters, but has far more guys willing to pump him up in the media 24/7. All LeBron has is Skip Bayless.

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Benedict_Boozer

The closest thing Lebron has is Brian Windhorst, though he has criticized Lebron in the past (justifiably so) so he doesn't really count.

I always wondered why Ric Bucher loves Kobe so much? Either he was a Laker fan growing up or is trying to make a name for himself by being Kobe's "boy" just like Ahmad Rashad was with Jordan. Either way it's irritating.

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kflo

i'm saying lebron is getting good coverage because i view it through a different lense than you do. i constantly see lebron coverage, and i constantly hear about lebron. and i don't let a few idiot reporters saying dumb things cloud the general overwhelming positives. i think you lock in on the dumb ones.

the sports media is and has been cliche driven for a long time. "they" don't properly analyze anyone. the average person covering a sport is a journalist or personality first, and a sports analyst 2nd. guys like stephen a or skip or charlie crave being talked about first.

i hear all the time how much lebron has improved defensively. i hear that he learned alot playing with kobe over the summer.

Basel57

For anyone interested, on 1st and 10 right now, they're talking about Kobe/LeBron.

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kflo

they had an 8 question kobe/lebron poll at the end of december.

and maybe you haven't noticed the timing of all of the espn polls. they're usually associated with an actual story.

Brandname

Is that the show with Woody Paige and Skip Bayless? *shudders*

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Basel57

Woody Paige hasn't been on that show in a looooooong time.

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