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Old 05-04-2008, 04:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

And guys, please don't change your opinions after Andy has one good game. Thanks.
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Old 05-04-2008, 05:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I don't know why your getting snarky: I have him on my top 10 favorites and he's been one of the Cavs favorites of most members of this board. In fact it was reason almost everybody has advocated trading away Gooden. If anything, AV has made us look bad with how poorly he's performed not the other way around
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I don't know why your getting snarky: I have him on my top 10 favorites and he's been one of the Cavs favorites of most members of this board. In fact it was reason almost everybody has advocated trading away Gooden. If anything, AV has made us look bad with how poorly he's performed not the other way around
Yep. I feel the same way. He is such a horrible player, I feel betrayed.
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Re: So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

He's playing like ****. He used to be able to finish around the basket at least, now he blows the easiest of layups.
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Simply put, good things used to happen when he was on the floor. He consistenly had the teams 2nd highest +/- and he was part of the teams closing lineup. That is just not the case this year. I'm not happy with his play this year but I'd really be disappointed if he didn't turn it around after an offseason of conditioning and preseason.
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Finally this was the AV that we all loved.

If he plays like this from now one: we can win the title this year
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Re: So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

Andy was the man tonight. If we get THIS Andy, we are going to the ECF.

He was awesome defensively
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Simply put, good things used to happen when he was on the floor. He consistenly had the teams 2nd highest +/- and he was part of the teams closing lineup. That is just not the case this year. I'm not happy with his play this year but I'd really be disappointed if he didn't turn it around after an offseason of conditioning and preseason.
That's when he really helps this team, put Andy there in the end.
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If he plays like this from now one: we can win the title this year
I have believed this and now with ben wallace and joe smith emerging we have even more options. Last year it was av shutting rasheed down and getting key rebounds and charges and finishing every game. Mike brown has a certain amount of trust in a couple young players av and gibson are both of them
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