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Old 04-11-2008, 08:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

Both have been terrible this year, and don't even deserve the little money they did end up getting. Ferry should have let Sasha go to Europe. Varejao can be capable, but Noah just ran a dunk drill on his head and the offense he showed before his injury has completely gone away after the Gooden trade, and he's proven incapable of winning the starting spot even with Drew gone.

Just more things to complain about.

Plus their selfishness cost the team a ton of chemistry.
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Old 04-11-2008, 09:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

Thats for people who thought Andersen should be a starter. Producing in limited minutes is not a way to predict production as a starter.
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Thats for people who thought Andersen should be a starter. Producing in limited minutes is not a way to predict production as a starter.
He played nearly all the 4th quarter minutes for the Cavs. This still isn't the same AV that was playing before the injury. Just hasn't been the same player since
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Re: So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

It's worth mentioning that over his career Andy has proven to be kind of injury prone.
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Re: So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

Andy has been terrible...I never thought I'd ever say this, but I'd rather have Noah by a long shot.
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Yeah if he continues to play like that we may be able to lock him up for lke 5 years 30 million
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Re: So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

Hopefully this season puts an end to the "per48" wonders of AV
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Re: So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

I think the holdout hurt Sasha in a number of ways. he was fat and out fo shape by the time he came in and I bet that contributed to the foot injury as well.

It will be interesting to see what happens the next few games with what Brown decides to do btw Sasha and Wally
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Re: So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

I think both guys have been stunningly inept. In the past, good things happened when Varejao was on the floor. I can't really think of much good he accomplished this year at all. At least Sasha has looked good right before he gets reinjured. However, whomever we play in the second round we're going to need these guys to step up.
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Sasha this year looks like crap, starts playing well, and then gets hurts
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Andy has been BEYOND horrible lately. Sasha has been too injured to really establish any kind of rhythm.

I don't think it's a coincidence both players missed all of training camp holding out and have struggled with injuries and conditioning all season long.

Sasha I still holdout SOME hope for. Andy is clearly playing for his next contract...I would be surprised if he wasn't traded next year.
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If Andy is playing for his next contract he'd better start playing better. Right this moment, he's overpaid.
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Re: So...Andy and Sasha look like idiots for their holdouts now, huh?

Andy was playing the best ball of his career before his ankle injury.

I don't think he's recovered from that: he can barely finish anymore and on top of that he started pressing because when he came back he was scared to lose PT to lose Wallace and Smith. Deadly combo there
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