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01-28-2004, 07:34 PM
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The Cavs are for real. LeBron didnt even have one of his better games and we still closed it out. Wags hit a key shot. Neble the block. Z shot well in one of his few really good games
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01-28-2004, 07:35 PM
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Um.. SkipToMyLou.... wrong. And your "homerism's" are lame in here. Yeah, and if Clev makes the playoffs and Miami doesn't, do you still say Wade should get ROY? Wade is excellant, no doubt, but if you had the #1 pick, are you saying you'd take Wade over LeBron?
Getting onto the important thing- the game- that was a very rough game. There were a lot of both red and white jerseys on the floor all game. What happened to Odom? He should've dominated as much as Z did on the other end.
And again, we are a completely different team without Carlos.
Good home win for us, we are +.500 for Jan. We don't play Miami til April... almost the final games of the season when we play a back-to-back home and home series.... that could be for a playoff position, or hopefully for playoff POSITIONING.
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01-28-2004, 07:36 PM
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ahhh games like this make me so relieved  so glad we won that one. I honestly thought we wouldnt there for a second.
i started posting on the heat board on this game too hahahaha.
just to tease em 
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01-28-2004, 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by <b><< SkipToMyLou >></b>!
I think Dwyane Wade is better than James. But Lebron gets all the attention. The ROY award is gonna come down to Carmelo, Wade and James. Its gonna help if Wade's team makes the playoffs and James' Cavs dont.
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1. The Cavs look like they are heading to the playoffs.
2. You're a little biased being that you list your location as Miami.
3. No. No. and No. Lebron is considerably better than Wade, who is also good.
Wade is in the mix with Bosh, and Hinrich in terms of who is going to get third place for ROY.
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01-28-2004, 07:40 PM
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This is not the same old Cavs. For some reason folks keep assuming that the Cavs are a gimme win and that just isn't the way it is anymore. I'd feel alot better if they played the entire 48 minutes instead of getting a lead and letting these teams back into the game but as long as they keep winning I guess its alright.
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01-28-2004, 07:41 PM
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oh yea. and BIG WIN for the Cavs.
Before this win they were 2 1/2 games out of the playoff spot.
Got Miami, Philly, and New York to get by for the spot right now. But I think Boston, Toronto, and New Orleans are coming back into the pack.
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01-28-2004, 07:41 PM
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Hey, I think that was our 17th win... which ties our win total from ALL of last year! Thanks Miami! 
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01-28-2004, 07:49 PM
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3 plays....
#1- Z's spin move off the right wing with the finishing slam
#2- LeBron's pass fake which suckered Mahlik Allen, and then James taking it strong to the rim for the posterize dunk in Odom's face with the foul
#3- I just watch a couple replays of Wade's final shot, he wasn't fouled, he stubbed his foot against Ollie's foot just as he caught the pass and was moving towards the basket. Tough for a visiting team to get that call on the road.
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01-28-2004, 07:59 PM
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Anybody who doesn't think that the Cavs are a different team without Boozer doesn't watch them play. He is the teams primary rebounder. He can reliably hit that 15-18 ft jumper after the defenders rotate to get Z or LeBron. He is probably the Cavs MVP so far this season.
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01-28-2004, 08:06 PM
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think Dwyane Wade is better than James. But Lebron gets all the attention. The ROY award is gonna come down to Carmelo, Wade and James. Its gonna help if Wade's team makes the playoffs and James' Cavs dont.
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go to NBA.com and look at every cavs game highlight, realizing they leave out a ton of LeBron's most impressive plays.
people watch a game, and they think a player is like that every game. it is a habbit most people have here. you have to learn that players change game to game. I would watch LeBron in the beginning of the year like vs Portland, be like "where's the Sacremento LeBron?" But LeBron has so many other good games and unique plays. Like the national TV Laker game wasnt that good, but LeBron is allowed to have 16 point game every once in awhile. He is allowed to adjust from an injury. Then you watch the, say..., Portland game, and he's the best player in the league. Wade is great, but he can only get third in ROY. LeBron will win because the stupid W-L crap is going away. Melo for some reason doesnt have any people the criticize him. No one ever attacks bad games. They just assume Melo is steady. So he's a lock at two. I think Wade is good for thrid though.
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01-28-2004, 08:29 PM
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Anybody who doesn't think that the Cavs are a different team without Boozer doesn't watch them play. He is the teams primary rebounder. He can reliably hit that 15-18 ft jumper after the defenders rotate to get Z or LeBron. He is probably the Cavs MVP so far this season.
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Same thing with Grant we really needed him.
If Grant would have been in the lineup then Big Z would have had much more didfficult shots.
Malik allen cant play defense but Grant can.
Top Rookies  in order)
Lebron
Melo
Wade
i think all of them are a lock to be the top 3 rookies.
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01-28-2004, 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by <b>The OUTLAW</b>!
This is not the same old Cavs. For some reason folks keep assuming that the Cavs are a gimme win and that just isn't the way it is anymore. I'd feel alot better if they played the entire 48 minutes instead of getting a lead and letting these teams back into the game but as long as they keep winning I guess its alright.
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latey we have been giving a lead and thencomming on stron in the late 3rd and 4th. i think we play well like that. and games are more exciting!
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01-28-2004, 11:35 PM
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I really like the team that the Cavs are becoming... and I'm glad to see how well Wagner is playing. He's that other dynamic scorer that can make things happen. And he seems to fit the chemistry of the team well.
You know what is the greatest thing about these Cavs... it's the youth of their core players. James, Boozer, and Wagner are all very young players who have many years ahead of them to improve. Diop and Kedrick Brown can come along for the ride too if they keep working and playing hard... the future looks really bright for this team. They have a lot of the right elements. In other words, it's only a matter of time before they're a serious contender.
If I imagine a Cavs team in four or five years led by James and Boozer, with Wagner scoring off the bench and Diop shutting down the middle (hopefully staying out of foul trouble), I see a very competitive team.
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01-29-2004, 02:54 AM
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Great effort by both teams. I don't care WHO wins R.O.Y . the fact is that both of the rookies that we saw in the game tonight are excellent.
I like how strong Z played. I know that Miami was without Grant, but in the past Z still would have played soft down low no matter who was in the game. I think Silas has lit a fire under his behind and improved his game. And the 2-man game with Z and McIness was starting to look pretty tight at times. Hope thay keep growing together as a team.
Juan and Bron will be all stars in the future.. and of course, BOOZ
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01-29-2004, 03:42 AM
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