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01-30-2004, 10:17 PM
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01-30-2004, 10:18 PM
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Boxscore
Cavs - 95
Bucks - 101
High Men:
Cavs - James (20), Boozer (19)
Bucks - Redd (24), Skinner (13)
Of course any loss is sad but to be truthful, I'm shocked the Cavaliers didn't lose by a wider margin considering the poor 4th quarter they played. The Bucks' offensive potency and tempo were scary. Plus they held onto the lead while giving their starters rest. Hopefully Cleveland will learn from the game film and put this behind them, and try to stay positive for the next game.
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01-30-2004, 10:24 PM
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Lebron is clutch!!!
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I wouldnt be talking after he did your team up last game in the 4th quarter. You cant expect a rookie let a lone a 19 year old to be lights out every single night. Like someone here said hopefully they can learn from this awful game and put it behind them.
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01-30-2004, 10:31 PM
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The stupid refs took LeBron out of his game; he's stronger than most defenders so the refs think he's committing an offensive foul. Plus no player on the Cavs could make a shot. Where is the transition D? Where is the D down low?
A good thing will come out of this. The team got a gut check. LeBron's still learning the 2. Is it just me, or do the Cavs continue to miss LeBron getting open down low? Does this team need to develop endurance because they always get beat in transition.
LeBron played poorly tonight and no other player was there to pick him up. He took way more jumpers than usual for reasons I dont know. Next game, LeBron will come back, he always does.
Wagner???
Forget the explanations, the team just sucked.
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01-30-2004, 10:36 PM
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I wouldnt be talking after he did your team up last game in the 4th quarter
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and many other teams this year. You'll be scared in a couple years EVERY time you have a close game vs him.
For some people like you, LeBron is "re-born" every national TV game. It's annoying. There have been 45+ games. This was ONE. How many "bad" games has he had? 6-8. Would that happen to ANY HS rook? Yes.
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01-30-2004, 10:36 PM
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While I agree that some of the fouls in this game were questionable thats not why the Cavs lost. They lost because nobody was shooting well and because they let Milwaukee dictate the tempo. They can run with most teams but frankly the Bucks are too quick for them to try to emulate that tempo.
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01-30-2004, 11:46 PM
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I did notice that Lebron got open for deep deep post position quite a few times but no one could find him. I think the only person who could have thrown the pass that needed to be thrown was Lebron.
You have to hand it to Desmond Mason though. His defense on Lebron in the 4th was very good. I think Lebron got taken out by the foul situation though. He was worried about on defense and worried about it going to the hole. He's so strong that guys just bounce right off of him when they bang into him.
He's the anti-Iverson in that respect. Iverson goes out with any contact and so draws a lot of fouls. Lebron knocks people down when they try and foul him.
He reallly does look like a power forward underneath the basket sometimes.
The reason the Cavs lost the game was because they let the Bucks dictate the pace of the game and they shot too bad in the 4th. But honestly if they thought they were going to win a game up in the upper 90's against the Bucks they were mistaken.
This was the second time I've gotten to see TJ Ford. And I really don't understand why he won't be in the rookie-soph game. He's perfect for that type of game. and he seems to me to be a huge reason the Bucks are as good as they are. He's the perfect guy for the talent on that team.
Bad loss by the way. Because New York, Miami, and Philly all won. Fortunately Boston and Toronto all lost. But the Cavs need to get ahead of Miami and Philly and New York first.
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01-31-2004, 09:28 AM
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01-31-2004, 09:45 AM
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LeBron is learning how to use his body in the post, but nobody can find him. He can really finish around the basket. It's too bad about the three free throws, though. You can tell that he didn't use his usual routine until his third one and it cost him. Bad game for all of the Cavs but Brown.
I'm very, very impressed with Kedrick Brown. He should start. Ira Newble is a joke compared to him. Did anyone else see him D up Redd like Redd was a little kid? I can remember one play where Redd rolled off of a screen and Brown just started playing physical like "Uh-uh, you're not going anywhere" and he just shut Redd down for the second half. If he ever gains some confidence on offense he can be a more athletic Ron Artest(there, I said it).
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01-31-2004, 02:27 PM
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Yeah generally I agree with what Silas is doing, but last night I think he left Wagner on the bench for too long, and should have started Brown. I wish Kedrick would play with more confidence. Someone should tell him he can really ball. The way he was rebounding and defending last night was terrific.
He could be every bit as good as Boozer, Wagner and Lebron in the future.
Newble's sorry performance probably earned him a lot more bench time.
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01-31-2004, 04:52 PM
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I wish I had a highlight reel of Kedrick Brown grabbing defensive rebounds... he jumps like five feet in the air and sucks the ball in like a black hole, it's beautiful.
He played great, like he usually does, because he doesn't try to do very much. Unlike LeBron, who sometimes tries to do too much.
I'm sure some LeBron critics would think what I'm about to say is stupid, but I really think there is some truth to it... I think one of LeBron's biggest problems is that he is capable of doing so many different things that it's difficult to know what to do sometimes. Players who are more limited just try what they can, and if it doesn't work, it doesn't work... but it must be harder to learn what you need to do to win when you can do anything.
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01-31-2004, 05:15 PM
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I'm sure some LeBron critics would think what I'm about to say is stupid, but I really think there is some truth to it... I think one of LeBron's biggest problems is that he is capable of doing so many different things that it's difficult to know what to do sometimes. Players who are more limited just try what they can, and if it doesn't work, it doesn't work... but it must be harder to learn what you need to do to win when you can do anything.
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I think that's why you still see him play in diffrent "modes".
I think moving him to SG should help simplify the game for him and let him play more free.
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